Dietitian's sick son maybe getting better?


(Laurie Bilyeu) #1

Feeling some hope tonight and thought it a good time to introduce myself.

I’m a dietitian in the US. Although my training is traditional, I myself never have been. I went back to school mid-life for nutrition. But I went through 4 years for that Masters degree with a bias for veganism. (Truth is, whenever I have been vegan, I gained weight. The lower my carb intake, the better my weight.)

My son (26 yo) is very ill with complications of Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome. This is a connective tissue disorder (collagen deficiency), which in him causes outrageous joint pain and chronic fatigue, and other nastiness. I spend much of my time searching for treatment for him – there aren’t many specialists, nor many helpful treatments.
I ran across Dr. Sarah Myhill’s book about treating Chronic Fatigue Syndrome with a ketogenic diet.

Hunh.

I learned about keto in school for children with epilepsy. OK. If ketones in the brain help that neurological problem, then I have to concede that ketones might help other brain problems. Being desperate, I’m open to changing my mind about every nutritional bias I’ve ever had.

So I read everything, listened to podcasts (Carl and Richard are exceptional, so grateful.) Dove deep into my understanding of the biochemistry. And shifted my own diet to keto–I can’t teach my son if I don’t understand it from the inside out. (How that affects me professionally is a whole other, very long story!)

He was willing to try–at first he shifted too fast and was too miserable. I had him add some carbs and back off. He didn’t have enough easy keto foods available to stave off hunger nor enough salt.

I decided to have him try exogenous ketones–I wanted us to see what his brain would feel like with that fuel on board. Because if he feels more alert and energized with some ketones in his brain, we’ll both be totally committed to getting him to nutritional ketosis.

Today, after about a week with exogenous ketones, he says he definitely does feel more focused, less brain-foggy, more alert. He looks brighter more awake to me than he has in a long time.

WOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOO!!!

So, his freezer is stocked with keto meals. Fridge is full of cheese and salami and bacon and olives. I made him fathead cheese-its and Carrie Brown’s breakfast cereal. And bone broth. Because, Mom has no problem spending weekends cooking.

One challenge is that he needs more salt than most people anyway (orthostatic issues). In order to keep up, besides very salty food, he’ll take DripDrop (a very good electrolyte solution) and Saltstick tablets as well.

And I feel this little spark of hope. I’m grateful for everyone who’s posted anywhere about their experience, and for thought leaders and problem solvers who have provided me with the information I need to help my only child reach for a better life.

In gratitude and hope,
Laurie


(Amy Ramadan) #2

Welcome to the forum!! I think you will love it here and hope it’s a great source of support and encouragement for you!!! Praying for both you and your son and truly hoping that keto is the answer to his health issues!! I look forward to seeing how this progresses for you!! Good luck!!


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #3

You sound like a wonderful mother for doing so much to help your son, and the most level-headed dietitian I’ve ever had the pleasure of welcoming to this forum, lol.


(Ken) #4

One of my sons was a Hep B baby (adopted in Africa) Growing up, he never had any health problems, but was considered an active case. He became borderline obese in High School. When I leaned him out with fat based Paleo nutrition, it cured his condition.


(Laurie Bilyeu) #5

Wonderful, you both must feel so much better! Thanks for the reply!


(Laurie Bilyeu) #6

Thank you. And I know dietitians are hard nuts to crack. We’ll all come around, though.


(Cristian Lopez) #7

Thanks @PaulL for calling me!
@Rinda Message me for any personal questions you have with teen bodybuilding on keto!


(Diane) #8

@Rinda thank you for sharing this information regarding Dr. Myhill’s book about chronic fatigue! I just bought the most recent edition on Amazon.


(Karen) #9

A quick prayer that this will help him. Poor fellow and what a great parent he has in you. Keto certainly helps with inflammation.


(Laurie Bilyeu) #10

Oh thank you – he’s so sick now. We’ll count it total victory when he can walk around the block every day! If he gets to body building, we’ll be over the moon!


(Laurie Bilyeu) #11

Wait wait–you mean his Hep B is now considered inactive? Wowser!


(Laurie Bilyeu) #12

Do you have CFS also? I hope you’ll tell me if any of her suggestions help you. Has being keto changed things for you in the fatigue arena?


(Candy Lind) #13

WOO-HOOO! I am optimistic for both you and your son - that he will feel better, & that you will find a new nutrition niche that will help so many sick people!


(Ken) #14

Yes. He is cured.


(Diane) #15

Yes, I have chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and fibromyalgia. I have been off work with a medical disability since January 2017. I spent the first 6 months mostly in bed.

In July 2017, my PCP provider recommended that I read Dr. Mercola’s book Fat for Fuel (that wouldn’t be the first book I would recommend to a newbie… personally). I spent a couple of months researching ketogenic eating and making some improvements to my diet (mostly eliminating sugar). I began eating “strictly” keto September 16, 2017 (although it actually took me about 3 weeks to get down to less than 20 grams of net carbs per day once I started tracking everything I ate). Within a couple of weeks, I experienced a great deal of improvement. I saw some very noticeable reduction in my brain fog, and improvements to my short term memory and depression. I’ve now been off my anti-depressant for quite some time (for the first time in 13 or 14 years). I feel better off my anti-depressant than I ever did on it. I stopped getting opportunistic lung and sinus infections or cellulitis every month. It seems my immune system has been strengthened.

All of my other biomarkers improved after 3 to 4 months of eating ketogenically, except for my Epstein-Barr viral loads (still very high), and my inflammatory markers (already very high- but these got worse). I’ve since made some additional dietary changes (no soy or canola oils) which have helped me start to see improvement in systemic inflammation.

With regards to my fatigue and stamina, I’m much improved but nowhere nearly back to normal. I have some pretty good days but still some days where I end up in bed. I can take care of myself and do my own grocery shopping. I should probably be using a walker but since most of my walking happens while shopping, I use the grocery cart as my walker. I can walk down to the condo’s mailbox and get my own mail on a regular basis. I can sometimes stand long enough to scramble my eggs and not need to drag over a chair to sit on. So, not better yet. But a ketogenic diet is the ONLY thing that has helped me make progress toward better health. I’m so grateful.

After a quick look at some information regarding Dr. Myhill’s work, I see some indications that make me hopeful. I already find that taking l-carnitine (for general energy and stamina) and acetyl l-carnitine (which crosses the blood brain barrier better) are helpful. Since taking l-carnitine is one the recommendations she has for CFS patients, I’m hopeful I’ll find other supplements or strategies that will get me closer to being able to function more normally.

As I read, learn and implement them, I’ll let you know if I find her other recommendations helpful. Thanks again for sharing this book recommendation! I’ve been doing research but had never come across this information.

Edited to spell out chronic fatigue syndrome so if anyone else is searching for information in the forums, they’ll find this thread.


(Krystian Zajdel) #16

Check out this episode of Bulletproof Radio: https://blog.bulletproof.com/charles-poliquin-537
Particularly to the part about Actovegin. The episode guest is extremely difficult to understand so the host transcribed the conversation: https://44uc8dkwa8q3f5b66w13vilg-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/BPR-CharlesPoliquin-rerelease.pdf. Search the text for “collagen” and you will find the relevant paragraph.
I’m sure that you know that you will have to do your own research whether it’s something you are willing to try. It seems to be an over-the-counter supplement in Europe but not sold in US.


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #17

Hoping you continue to see good results for your son.

Good for you, realizing that you needed to find something to help your son, obviously your traditional training didn’t provide you with the right approach.


(Carl Keller) #18

I’ve been reseaching hot sauces for adding more salt into my diet. I found that Frank’s Red Hot to be the highest in sodium at 160mg with .2 carbs per teaspoon. Tabasco is quite low @ 25mg with zero carbs per teaspoon. There’s a plethora of other hot sauces in between those from Yucateco to Trader Joe’s to Tapatito to Siracha that have any where from 60mg to 120mg that can put more salt into one’s diet with minimal effort and little or no carbs. Plus it’s tasty on eggs and chicken, for me.
PS, siracha came in the highest for carbs @1.2 per teaspoon but 70% of the hot sauces I studied have zero carbs.


(Laurie Bilyeu) #19

Thank you so much Candy! Re-evaluating my professional life is going to be interesting… I work in geriatric nutrition, so it makes some sense for me to follow the work in dementia. Wouldn’t I love to give my elderly peeps some relief?


(Laurie Bilyeu) #20

And it is a total favorite! Thank you for doing and sharing the research!