Devastated about the food they give in the schools

(Danielle ) #1

I am so devastated what they are serving the children at the schools. After trying to ask them to at least change the butter to real dairy butter, they tell me that there are too many parents that want their children to eat vegetable oil butter, because they are afraid of the fat.

I talked with one mother that pointed out how unhealthy the breakfast was, with all the butter the children put on their sandwiches, and that she wants to bring in fruits and breakfast muffins instead! :tired_face: She also told me that fruit is a good source of protein, when I said that I wished they could have some ham or sausage.

I am so sad, because I feel like they are poisoning my children, and there is nothing I can do. I have started sending lunch bag with them to the school, although the breakfast club is still an issue.

Anyone experiences the same? :tired_face:

#2

It’s temporary, we’ve got plenty of time to teach them how to eat right. We try to have my son eat a descent amount of food that won’t kill him down the road but can only push it so far since he does still have to eat “normal” at school. All you can do is lay the groundwork for later. By the time they’re out of school hopefully the make the right choices, they’ll still be metabolically fine at point.

(Danielle ) #3

I hear what you are saying, but they attend school during the most crucial years of development.

I just notice how my son crashes when he eats carbohydrates. He is so much more calm on a Keto/low-carb diet.

Both my kids make informed decisions about the food they are eating, and they have been so educated now, that they are standing up against the teachers that try to force them desserts in school. Apparently, they want the kids to eat everything, provided by the school, including the sugary chocolate puddings, et cetera.

My kids doesn’t want to drink the milk either, because they don’t want to support factory farming, and once again the teachers try to push them to drink milk.

I am just going to try and make lunch bags from now on, but they still goes to breakfast club. :slightly_frowning_face:

Fun thing happened, two teachers came to me, and complained about my lunch bag. They said I can’t bring Nutella, and that I should consider making the kids “healthier” lunch with less sugar. I laughed, and said that they don’t have to worry, the melted chocolate is 99% with almost no sugar, the pancakes and muffins I send with them are made of coconut flour, eggs, cottage cheese or cream cheese, et cetera. :joy:

(Sheri Knauer) #4

Yes. I have 2 kids in elementary school. Im am sure each public school district is mandated to follow the govt food guidelines, although I am not sure about private schools. Its appalling what they offer to the kids for lunch. What is just as appalling are the lunches I see the kids bring in from home. Filled with chips, cookies, breads, sunny D, Yoo Hoo, gummy things, lunchables, nutella, some kids just keep pulling out one crappy thing after another from their lunch bags. I was just at their school to have lunch with them yesterday and I see all the crap and see the number of kids that are already having weight issues. Its really sad. I wonder what the state of their health will be by the time they reach high school.
I pack lunch for my kids everyday. I know they buy ice cream sometimes and might trade some of their stuff for the stuff I don’t have in our house (especially my younger daughter. My older daughter is very good about keeping away from the stuff thats not good for her) but I just make sure I let them know the reasons why I don’t buy that kind of food, lead by example, and let them know that they need to start making some of their own food choices and that I hope they make good ones.
Its the same way with swim team. Both of my girls are on swim team during the summer and the crap that is offered to the kids at swim meets is absolutely appalling. They have chips, soda, donuts, skittles, candy bars, granola bars, gatorade, cookies, snow cones. If its crap, you can guarantee its offered to our young, developing athletes. Again, I pack my own food for swim meets for the kids to eat should they want some but they always ask if they can buy something because they see all their team mates eating that stuff.
ITs really hard knowing that not only your own kids but all the other kids in your community are being fed this stuff filled with high fructose corn syrup and other sugars, canola oil, dyes, and other chemical additives. The grocery stores are just filled with this crap, and its cheap, and its heavily promoted, and consumers are lied to because they are promoted as being “healthy” because its “low fat” or “high fiber” or “high protein” or “fill in the blank”.
So I get it. Fortunately they don’t force the kids to eat everything on their plate. The school nurse did make a comment to my daughter though the other day. She has belly aches a lot and sometimes she’ll go to the nurse to lay down for a bit and the nurse told her that eating bacon in the morning was bad for her because it has too much fat. Grrrrr. I just reiterated to her that eating fats is essential for brain health and development, but of course not the kind of fats found in cakes, cookies, donuts, candy, etc (unless of course its something mommy made).

(Danielle ) #5

I know exactly what you mean with the other kids school boxes. The things is that in the UK, at least in this county, the government decides what the school menus is going to be for ALL schools in the county. So they are being offered free school lunch the first few years, and that is a lovely thing when you have little time on your hands, as me, being a student mother. However, as it is government controlled, it is almost impossible to impact the menu, as I have realised. Thus, the majority of the kids eat the provided school lunches and just a few bring boxes.

I am so shocked and devastated, when I am out and I see small children with barely no teeth being given crips!!! :woman_shrugging:t3: My parents always have me low-fat, but at least they knew that crisps and stuff was unhealthy. Since when did we think that crisps are good for the kids? I also, see all those mothers skip the breastfeeding and give them milk replacement that are filled with only vegetable oils! :scream: I can just see how we are building a future filled with illnesses and diseases.

I was just shocked how a middle aged woman could think that fruits as apples and oranges is a good source of protein, when I said I want them to add more protein for breakfast and suggested ham???

I am so infuriated at the moment. I am boiling. This is not okay!

(Danielle ) #6

This just makes me so upset! Especially as I am reading all these books, and do so much research how important cholesterol and saturated fats are on the psychological development and well-being.

I even took my kids to the Natural History Museum, and had a lecture by the human evolution sceletons, that clearly showed the difference between apes and humans, and their teeth and stomachs. I showed them and read about how the early human species were hunters in comparison with apes. :joy::joy::joy::joy:

#7

Just a word of caution:
My mother used to send me into school with a carefully packed lunch of grain free stuff. No sugar. All unprocessed and natural. (to give you an example, I used to open my tupperware pot at the lunch table and everyone around me would recoil in horror at the shredded pile of white cabbage topped with a sardine in vegetable oil. The stench of fish was revolting. There would be a slice of squished tomato wedged down the side).

Rather than go through that humiliation, I very quickly learned to dump the entire contents of my lunchbox in the rubbish bin outside the school gates on the way in, every morning. Then I went without food all day, or cadged a carby nibble from other kids. Since we only had half an unsugared grapefruit for breakfast, and I refused that, I would only eat the one inescapable meal at dinner, and whatever sweets I could buy with my pocket money.

Long story short: Don’t assume that because you are providing your kids with ‘healthy’ food, they are eating it. Or that they aren’t eating the processed rubbish that other kids eat.

(Danielle ) #8

Yes, thank you for that advice!

However, the kids love their school boxes! Before starting school they wanted to change school because they thought the school lunch was unhealthy. I give them a school lunch many kids would love to have - Keto pancakes with melted chocolate on, double cream and raspberries. They get cheese bites, small sausages, Keto bread with lots of butter, cheese and ham or cream cheese. I give them organic grass-fed whole yoghurt, and the yoghurt does contain some sugars, although it is very little and I think they can handle it. It is essential to give kid friendly keto foods!! :joy: Sardines and cauliflowers might not be the best!

I have educated my kids since they were small, and I sometimes read my books for them when they go to bed, and they love to listen.

My daughter got a candy cane from school because it was someone’s birthday (she is 4 years old), and she complained that it is unhealthy with lots of sugar to me and threw it in the bin when she came home. :joy:

Kids are so smart! :nerd_face:

(Michelle) #9

I make my kids’ lunch for this reason. My kiddos aren’t keto, but I like being able to control what they eat. When i make a big salad for dinner, I save a portion for her lunch the next day. She could get a salad at school, but I can provide her with some good whole-fat dressing and some protein on it. I’m careful about smells. While she likes boiled eggs and garlic dressing at home, I wouldn’t dare put it in her School lunch! As for my kindergartener, rolled up cold cuts, cubes of cheese, fruit with natural peanut butter for dipping. Always water to drink!

(Sheri Knauer) #10

I do the same. My kids aren’t keto (they are more paleo) but I give them whole foods that they like and aren’t smelly. Cut up rib eye, chunks of cheese, pepperoni, rolled up or cubed ham, olive, pickles, my youngest loves cucumbers and carrots so she gets those, nuts, sunflower seeds, cubed, roasted sweet potato. The smelly things like tuna and hard boiled eggs they eat at home. My older daughter is really good about avoiding sugar. If she is offered candy or cookies or something sugary like that, 9 times out of 10 she will say no and she sticks to eating what I pack her. My younger daughter, on the other hand, will take the candy every time, trade something from her lunch for goldfish or doritos or something else I won’t buy. The only good part is she tells me, she doesn’t hide it, she doesn’t lie, and I don’t make a big deal out of it because I don’t want her to be sneaking it. I let them know I understand they will have access to stuff like that but I will not buy it or bring it into the house and I only hope that they make good choices based on what Ive told them and from them seeing the way I eat.

(Bob M) #11

Hard boiled eggs are smelly? Is that really true?

I’m making pickled eggs, which I guarantee will be smelly, but I’ve never really smelled a hard boiled egg. Then again, since I spent decades fearing fat, I never ate many of them. I do know our kids take them to school.

Wait until they start getting health class and get indoctrinated to the world of low fat. Our kids can’t get full fat milk, but can get zero fat, high sugar chocolate milk.

And all of the school activities, if they have food, have crap. ALL of them.

#12

I hate this too. My two year old started preschool recently and they give them animal crackers for a snack :frowning:

(Sheri Knauer) #13

Yes they do! My kids school does “Mitochondrial derangement with Mom” (Muffins with Mom), and “Diabetes with Dad” (donuts with dad) every year serving up about 50 feet worth of muffins, donuts, pastries, fruit, bagels, flavored cream cheese, and orange juice a plenty! Every evening activity is filled with cakes and pies, cookies and lollipops, chips and popcorn, juice boxes and juice pouches. Its just unending and pitiful.

(KCKO, KCFO đŸ„„) #14

Well I would have told them to worry about teaching my kids reading, writing, thinking skills, and maths instead of the nutrition, I provide that education to my kids because I don’t want them to develop T2D, like the majority of the school lunch feed kids in American now. But that is just the kinda bitch I am.

Now about the breakfast club, if anyone is going to eat higher carb in the day that is about the best time to do it. As long as the other meals are more low carb, they should do ok. If you are really concerned, bake some ketoed muffins with your kids and let them take those, and pass on the school provided carbage. Yea, it is more work but do it with them and make it quality family time.

You will never win against the schools when it comes to the meals, it is all gov’t SAD guide lines.

(KCKO, KCFO đŸ„„) #15

You are so preparing them for the real world. Love that the 4 yr old even knew better than to eat that stuff. You are a super mom!

(Danielle ) #16

:joy::joy::joy::joy: this is so true! I just got a letter that I need to help out and organise Cake Sale for my first child and also another Cake Sale for my second one. I have boycotted these for some years. There is some serious issues with these cake sales, as they are not selling to the public, they are so selling to the parents and their children in the school, and people feel like they have to buy up all of the cakes and pastries as the money goes to the school. I should bring a bag of cocaine, it is as addictive.

(Danielle ) #17

This is my 6 year old son pouring out aspartame Coca Cola in the bin after being given one at a classmates birthday party this weekend. :joy::joy::joy:

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(Danielle ) #18

We are in the UK, but tomato potato.

I think it is just hilarious, as their school lunches are pizza, hamburger with fries, fish and chips, and dessert. To come to me and tell me I am giving them unhealthy food. :joy::joy::joy:

Funny thing though, when I spoke with the head teacher, he said there are more important things that he needs to focus on than what the kids have for breakfast club and lunch, and my spouse later said that this must be his life motto, because he is really obese. He, if someone, should really prioritise food. Poor guy!

(Danielle ) #19

I never understood how crackers are needed at all for anyone. I told our nursery, when my kids went there, to limit intake of sugar and carbohydrates. They were so worried about it, that they tried to give them lots of crackers on top of the healthy lunch I sent with them. Shame one them
 but people genuinely seem to think that carbohydrates are essentials.

(KCKO, KCFO đŸ„„) #20

Maybe try to write to Jamie Oliver, see if he can influence them???