Day 6 and I miss veggies

#21

I doubt you will have trouble with leafy greens but I guess everyone is different. It’s important to note that zucchini, peppers, squash, cucumbers, and tomatoes are fruits not vegetables. There seems to be a lot of confusion around that. If it has seeds it’s botanically a fruit and likely contains a lot more carbs.

(mary6aros) #22

I’ve been trying to listen a little to Dr. Berg on YouTube, and he says you can eat a lot of veggies. My thoughts are that you need those trace minerals, and where best to obtain them then the vegetables you eat? I’ve tried to eat like you said you intended, mostly meats and veggies. I’m full often. The only things I need to watch are too much protein and not enough fats. I think I feel better now when I’m eating many veggies. I’d keep experimenting, and see where you go!

(Joan) #23

I definately do feel much better eating more veggies than protein. I can make it thru the evening without snacking when i keep my carbs and protein down.

#24

Balsamico have dependend on the brand a lot of carbs! Have you checked this? Ather vinegar has less carbs.

(Eric Clément) #25

I’m finding the same thing. I eat more veggies now then I ever did before, the fact that they swim in mayonnaise most of the time makes it great lol.

(Rob) #26

Like many here I am also eating more veggies than I have ever done, in fact when I go to the supermarket and they are out of the veggies I went in for I get really frustrated!

One thing I found useful when starting of were the food visuals at DietDoctor. They have the lower carb stuff to the left and the higher carb stuff to the right. I also found it useful to use their guideline of selecting only veggies that grow above the ground (as they are generally lower carb) as opposed to root vegetables. It’s a rule of thumb that I find works well when you’re stood in the store in front of an array of different vegetables and don’t want to have to google everything for carb values on your phone.

I pretty much sauté (fast fry) most of my veg in a mixture butter and olive oil with a little lo-salt (for additional potassium). They cooker quicker and taste delish! I’ll occasionally add some finely chopped garlic (I use the ready-made stuff in a jar as I’m lazy), particularly for the more cruciferous veg like Kale. I’ve never had Kale until recently, but it’s now a staple in my diet and a great source of Potassium and other essential nutrients. If I’m not adding garlic, the other option is Bacon which can also provide some tasty fat to fry up the veggies in. That works well for Kale, Savoy Cabbage & Brussels Sprouts. Frying in different fats, such as Coconut oil or Goose Fat is another option to mix things up and offers so many different taste combinations to suit any palate.

Hope that helps.

#27

One commment from the orher side of experiences :roll_eyes:

I used to eat 3x more veggies on only low carb.
Because I was always hungry, I ate a lot of salad and veggies to fill my stomach. I was eating no grains and could afford this.

I have heard Dr. Westmann measuring the amount with cups. This seams nothing to me.
Therefore I eat most of the veggies raw or only slitely cooked because then they seem to be more.

Second to mention is, if you want to eat less then 20 carbs , and you eat eggs and creamcheese , perhaps a few nuts …you have to count this too.

Third point I will mention
Since I use myfitnesspal I am totaly confused.
There are often so differnt data to one product.

It was hard for me the first weeks ,
But I’m feeling so much better , that I have excepted it.

The only thing is - I have to learn to BUY LESS.
When I see the veggies wilt , it makes me sad.

(Brian) #28

That’s very real at our house, too!

I have a tendency to overbuy and there are times when we have more spoilage than I like. And we’re in to the keto lifestyle about 5 months now.

Honestly, we just don’t eat as much food as we used to. The same hamburger steak recipe that we used to get one or two meals out of, we now get 3 or 4 meals out of.

I’m actually looking forward to the garden this year. Since we used riced cauliflower quite a bit, I may even see if I can put some in the freezer all ready riced. And zucchini… right now, the price is ridiculous in the store. A few plants will have that stuff coming out our ears. (You probably know the joke about having to lock your car doors when you go to church in the summertime, otherwise, when you come back out, your back seat will be full of zucchini and cucumbers. LOL!)

(Tracy) #29

This is a question I struggled with at the beginning. I found that the small amount of veg I was eating was pushing me beyond my 20 grams, on top of those other incidentals like one gram per egg. I have found that my body fat is very resistant to letting go of its nutritional goodness and so I can’t get away with much veg. Whether you count net or total carbs will rely heavily on how many carbs you can tolerate and still achieve your goals, whatever they may be.

(Trish) #30

Keep in mind also that the body metabolizes or at least releases insulin differently if you eat only one macro at a time versus if you eat all thee together. So that if you eat your lots of veg at the same time as your fat and protein those extra few carbs shouldn’t have the same effect as if you ate only the veg so straight carrots alone might cause an insulin surge but carrots roasted in olive oil and cheese would likely produce a lessor insulin response. At least this is what I’ve read along the way. Anyone, please feel free to correct this if you know it’s way off.

#31

other than root veggies eat all you want!!!