Count calories?

[PortHardy]

haha… i dont know bout you but im not even arguing… i just think its great comversation

[juice]

haha… i dont know bout you but im not even arguing… i just think its great comversation

You really need to read the thread

[PortHardy]

oh i did… the difference is… im not arguing…everyone else around me might be…

[Regina]

I think this thread is bad for newbies! I thought it was going to be closed.

[Janie]

Fair enough.

I don’t need to argue or be convinced. I just wish I had found keto when I was in my 30’s instead of (rapidly diminishing) 50’s.

But hey - better late than never!!!

[juice]

I don’t need to argue or be convinced. I just wish I had found keto when I was in my 30’s instead of (rapidly diminishing) 50’s.

But hey - better late than never!!!

+100000000

[juice]

I think this thread is bad for newbies! I thought it was going to be closed.

That was floated as a suggestion. TBH, I don’t think it’s bad, really. There are some well-articulated responses.

[Janie]

I know, right???

I was hitting up my local grocery store today… walking at a brisk pace with no risk of my jeans catching on fire since my thighs don’t rub anymore!

And there was a very overweight man in a motorized cart in the parking lot and he had an oxygen bag strapped to his back with the tubes in his nose.

And I don’t think I have ever been so grateful for keto as I was today… hoping and praying I will avoid his fate in my future.

[juice]

I was hitting up my local grocery store today… walking at a brisk pace with no risk of my jeans catching on fire since my thighs don’t rub anymore!

[Regina]

There are some well-articulated responses.

I have cautiously backed off.

[JohnH]

But she wasn’t asking any of that. She simply asked how many calories she should eat.

I answered that brilliantly in post 13.

[juice]

I answered that brilliantly in post 13.

One of multiple brilliant answers, clearly

[mememe]

See… i still dont know if thats true…
For as many people that I have seen that CICO doesnt work long term… ive also seen a lot of people live at a baseline body weight by following CICO and exercise.

I think what sets apart success or failure is whst kind of metabolism and prior health history the person had before beginning CICO.

For me… i could only sustain CICO alone short term because my body is insulin resistant to a degree.
But my friend…has a healthy body and lost weight on a Vegan Raw High Carb Diet. She consumes pounds of Bananas and loses weight. She has maintained her losses…

I think more studies need to be done

You’d better be careful Heather. The keto police will be all over you if you disagree with them.
Their way is the only way.

[mememe]

As for having the thread locked, I’m surprised it took you that long to come up with the idea.
It doesn’t surprise me however, that the keto police would want to close it down.

[mememe]

This debate was well under way by then John. As usual in this thread, you missed the point entirely!

EDIT – changed the wording, so as not to cause offense.

[mememe]

haha… i dont know bout you but im not even arguing… i just think its great comversation

You really need to read the thread

Like I said. They will target you if you dare to have different ideas.

[juice]

Like I said. They will target you if you dare to have different ideas.

Yeah, viciously suggesting some reading. Some people, right? Bastards.

[JohnH]

This debate was well under way by then John. As always, you missed the point entirely!

Yes, I probably had something else I was doing when the thread was first started so that I couldn’t post right away. I do have other activities besides posting here.

How long have you been tracking my point-missing, to be able to state that I always miss the point entirely? Are you sure I didn’t, at some time in my life, actually get the point? Or partially get the point? I need to see some charts.

[Janie]

How long have you been tracking my point-missing, to be able to state that I always miss the point entirely? Are you sure I didn’t, at some time in my life, actually get the point? Or partially get the point? I need to see some charts.

[RobC]

This debate was well under way by then John. As always, you missed the point entirely!

This kind of reply is why this thread should be locked. Newbies should not be ignoring John (or anyone else) because we all should be coming to the table with a civil helpful tone. Badmouthing someone’s entire body of work here is simply unacceptable.