CNN Gets it Wrong Again

(Ethan) #1

I posted this to their terrible story on Facebook:

Please correct the false argument that appears in your article:

“Without [carbs], our bodies will rely on protein, breaking it down for energy instead of using it in its preferred role of growing and maintaining tissues.”

This is NOT what happens. Without carbohydrates, as insulin lowers, the liver begins produce ketones, which are a highly efficient source of energy. As the body becomes better at using ketones, ingested fat or fat stores from the body are easily converted into ketones or used directly by cells. Trough gluconeogenesis, the liver is able to produce the 50g of glucose the brain needs daily. The liver can actually produce much more, but that is not desirable. Protein is not broken down as long as enough protein is consumed daily (roughly 1g per lb of lean body mass), as is evidenced by DEXA scans of individuals who consume NO carbohydrates, but do consume an appropriately moderate (though not overly high) amount of protein.

In other words, CARBOHYDRATE CONSUMPTION IS NOT REQUIRED AT ALL.

story: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/health/carbohydrates-cravings-food-drayer/index.html

(Chris) #2

Not really surprising, outside of our little echo chambers there’s still widespread ignorance about this that’s propagated by our own government.

(Consensus is Politics) #3

Indeed.

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No Agenda Podcast

They are very interesting to listen to. Very often make predictions about events in news and politics weeks before they happen. According to them, there is a news cycle. The major news networks are following orders. Part of that is CNN keeping the food pyramid with carbs good, fat bad.

Listen, challenge yourself, think outside the box. Question everything.

(Ethan) #4

I am not really into conspiracy theories that are self-contradicting. The government is not organized well enough for that. I do, however, believe that stupidity is self-perpetuating. Somebody high up at CNN probably believes that they have a responsibility to promote USDA food guides and tradition. They make sure to invite similarly thinking columnists.

(VLC.MD) #5

Was it just me or Did Dr. Gupta miss the 3rd macronutrient … Protein.

I guess he says SAD isup to 65% carbs and 35% fat.
Surely the 10 seconds of air time to mention protein would help.

The only true falsehood was if you lack exogenous sugar you burn protein. Fat would be the primary fuel not protein.

Probably a waste of time talking about you don’t need any carbs … they won’t get the context of the statement.

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Pretty powerful statement about all carbs turn into sugar. I liked that. The fact he said vegetables are metabolized fast but used potatoes as a slow burn carb irked me. The GI and GL of potatoes are terrible.

(Consensus is Politics) #6

I misread your last word as ‘communists’. I laughed so hard, then I read it again, and laughed some more at myself.

(jay) #7

No Agenda is a great podcast, they deconstruct media from the perspective of two media insiders. Adam Curry of early MTV fame and John C. Dvorak a famous tech writer from back in the pc-dos days are an unlikely pair. They basically rif on and document the endless misteps, incompetence and manipulations of what passes for our modern news media. I have had to pull the car over they have made me laugh so hard at tmes. You cant appreciate how advertising dollars distort our news info until you hear a show that doesn’t accept any.

(jay) #8

Yeah its unfortunate (in that it’s less interesting or fun) but I fear most conspiracies can be dealt with using Hanlon’s razor " sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice"

(Ethan) #9

She responded, too:

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(Keto in Katy) #10

“license professional know better than websearch”

#11

I haven’t read through all the posts so maybe this is covered above, but if you’re not fat-adapted (most modern humans) then the body will in fact break down muscle when you suddenly don’t have carbs. As far it knows you are STARVING and is in a panic for fuel for the brain in particular (where’s the glucose, where’s the glucose?!!! :dizzy_face: )

This is why some (short-term) studies actually do show that low carb eating is in fact catabolic.

(Which is maddening, because folks will point to those as proof that keto is bad for muscle and actually what they show is kind of the opposite when you take a longer view of it and you understand fat-burning: if you’re so bad at using fat for fuel that your body cannibalizes its own muscle for energy, something is very wrong and you should really re-consider the way you eat!)

(Ethan) #12

It would have to be VERY short term though, since everybody has to go through that to even start a ketogenic diet.

(Keto in Katy) #13

It’s interesting to see the “Appeal To Authority” fallacy at work in nutrition.

We see references to Doctors and Dietitians and other “licensed” professionals, but when the licensing and education bodies are instructing based on failed, debunked, or non-existent science — game over.

I learned this first hand in 2013 when my doctors could not help me and never mentioned diet as a possible intervention. Turned out it was THE intervention to restore my health and vitality.

Yes.

#14

Consider the source…FAKE NEWS!

(Ethan) #15

I am no CNN fan, but the source is actually this dietician.

#16

Which usually means ZERO credibility in my book. For the record I was kinda joking though.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #17

OMG, I didn’t even know John Dvorak was still alive :joy: I will have to check out that podcast just to make sure.

#18

If you notice their VERY slowly changing their story though. LITTLE by LITTLE their taking bits and pieces from our book and again VERY slowly integrating it piece by piece. The ADA and AHA aren’t stupid. They know they can’t do a 180 on all the lies so their going to spend the next decade showing “new science” that eventually has people probably in the normal low carb range. A couple years ago they would have claimed those chocolate chip cookies were fine because they would have been the “low fat” ones, and I remember popcorn was considered healthy, and they only had issues with butter on it but not it itself. baby steps. Any other action and the fallout would destroy them. Which will hopefully still happen though because I want to be there!

(Ethan) #19

CNN deleted all the comments on Facebook on the article.

(Carpe salata!) #20

Looks like they really DO control the narrative.