But being that amino acids are the building blocks of our bodies have you considered a protein shake? Dr Ben Birkmen recently had one made thats a one to one ratio
Clean Carnivore Crew, January 2022
JJFiddle
(Judy Thompson)
#583
Today I played at the little ranch church, then hubby and I went to the country bar up the road to play. That music is so much fun!
We got home close to 3 and pulled the sous vide pork tenderloin and browned it. Tonight Iām eating 2 hb eggs with cheddar and Parmesan melted on top.
Also some Scotch and soda, no carbs.
@Alecmcq your butternaise looks like fantastic fun! Iāve made my own mayo for a few years, immersion blender style. I could do this! But like you, Iāll have to wait till I save up a cup of bacon grease. The butter version might be good too although I would have to use ghee. Butter is still bad to me since covid.
@Shinita and @VirginiaEdie glad you 2 are still here, still posting.
Lastnight, I had a few 2" slices of sharp cheddar. I think my ācheese as a snack by itselfā days have come to an end. (I felt yucky afterwards.) @fangs I appreciate your repeated suggestion to listen to the body and follow its lead.
I think peppers are gone. Church had sausages with jalapeƱo cheese and I wanted not to consume that! I havenāt used pepper since I started 19 days ago but have thought about pepper in terms of inflammation. I had a book that claimed its diet would cure arthritis for good, and the first thing you got rid of was peppers of all kinds. When I find that book Iām going to read it cover to cover. I believe it also banned tomatoes and nightshades. At the time that seemed ridiculous. Iām glad I never throw anything away!
@RobinTemplin āBut all of this is exacerbated by my loss of taste since having omicron. So I wonāt make any rash decisions until that comes back. Fingers crossed.ā
We had delta variant back in August and still, many dairy products have a metallic taste and smell. Butter, sour cream, cottage cheese, kefir. Milk smells like it although I donāt drink milk. I even got a little of that taste from cream cheese. Heavy cream, ghee, grated cheese, queso fresco, are all fine. Maybe itās lactose?
I donāt know that this will ever go away. Most smells and tastes have come back. But maybe this aversion will help on my carni journey!
Fangs
#584
@Azi
Super Congrats on your Carniversary!!
great post. Like you I am on carnivore boards and mostly very new people to plan crave and want this and that. But it gets controlled more one of course longer on plan one holds tight. I was a craver when I started ZC and heck I came from extreme low carb into this plan LOL It takes a bit to withdrawl off darn carbs 
------in general guys
I think we get hit 2 fold. One is just shock and dismay that we truly have to give up SO much food options in lifeā¦like the entire plant based world of food. I think many canāt wrap their minds around that ya know, cause I was one that had a hard time coming to terms with it actually and it took reading all about how bad alot of plants ingested were for my body to figure out I truly started to change my thinking and wanted off that inflammation/ insulin rollercoaster that affected me so rough and at some point I said, if I donāt want, meat/seafood fish or fowl to eat then I am just not hungry! I figured out how to use hunger to a real advantage and went by if I want food, for any reason, if I canāt eat any meat then I am not hungry enough to eat, simple as that. It is true also and a basic guideline in carnivore. If you canāt eat meat, or bacon, or sausages or wings or seafood and you āwant variety and other stuffā then it is a craving hitting you and if you canāt fill that void by meat then you arenāt hungry.
That was something I realized, I donāt have to eat all the time like I used to eat. I can go a very very long time without eating which is not gonna kill me I found out so settling into finally 2 times a day to eat for me is very comfortable. I also know if I skipped the second smaller meal I would be fine but for me, I like to eat 2 times per day and I feel best eating that way. So yea, zc food in 2 meals and if I donāt feel like I want meat, which never happens 
then I just wouldnāt eat.
Luckily many can tip toe back into a low carb menu and do ok. Many can function easily in that realm. I am not one. But those who can go back and do great, more power to themā¦but for me the benefits of zc far outweigh what happens when I eat the plants again. I used to say I canāt go back, now with all this time on plan, I do not want to go back! Where one finds best results and comfort in their day to day eating is the place they should be, whatever plan that is that suits them. But ya know, alot of people canāt even find that! So I count myself very lucky I found me in the food world 
@FrankoBear
oh I want to be at that beach!!
So happy to hear you are improving and enough to do ladders and more! Donāt rush it, still go slow and recover that junk outta your body!
@VirginiaEdie
I think humans are the only species on the planet with that analogy actually. A lion wonāt eat dandelions cause he is bored of meat. A deer wonāt chow down on a rabbit cause it is tired of leaves and grass. Of course some animals have digestions that wonāt allow it like rumianants but those animals that swing both ways, they arenāt activating pleasure seeking connections in their brains either. I also think they are mainly advantageous as in ANY meal they get they can eat and it suits their feeding they will eat. I think animals do seek out food that has the nutrients their bodies require, I sure get that part, but I donāt think we can put ādesirableā as in pleasure when seeking out food, as in our āhuman termsā as it applies to humans ya knowā¦I donāt know if I said that right but that is my gist LOL
In truth if your mind and body isnāt interested, you truly are not hungry. If your getting hard cravings and you arenāt hungry, that is your body wanting carbs back. Carb monster is a strong PIA for alot of us but again, those who can go backward a bit and eat other things can do fine on a plan like that so always do what suits you best! The best thing about you VE is you know yourself very well and you are very in tune so how you change things up a bit is a controlled ascent for you. You arenāt willy nilly doing your changes half azz and without your reasons, so that is a big plus for you. I like that.
have you read this yet? It gives good insight how plants and their toxins can work against our bodies. Yea peppers and things like that are not great for usā¦from the net: Capsaicin does cause irritation of the mucous lining in your digestive tract (mouth, stomach and intestines) --and can cause cell death. ----when you research deeper on it this is not a good intake, it is an inflammation and irritating factor for our bodies. I was never a hot pepper fan anyway so dropping any of that stuff was never an issue for me.
==============WOW GUYS, HOW DID CLEAN CARNIVORE JANUARY go so darn fast.
Well I got on the scale. In one month I dropped 2.8 lbs from the scale. Now key is to keep it off! I outdid my target of 1.8 lb this monthā¦weeā¦
I also think those cutting my big big salt intake back was a big factor in this drop on the scale. I will continue watching my heavy handed salt intake thru Feb.
but for Ferocious Fix February I am not getting on the scale now til the end of the month to see if I got lower in general and using it as a tool just to knowā¦but I got a tighter shirt I love and tried it on this morning and yea, I could use a tad leaner meaner to make it give me that more comfort fit, so I am using that as my target tool also.
Feb. I am shooting for LION Diet. WOW. You know I am already intimidated and I havenāt even started HAHA
I did unintentional Lion back in year 2 of zc. I just ate ribeyes, all day, all the time and rarely went for anything else. Then I flipped back to pork and some chicken and beef combined which I basically eat now. So will be interesting to see if I get wonky doing LION but if I eat pork chops on my LION experiment, I wonāt consider it bad, wrong, a failure or anything cause ZC is truly zc ya knowā¦lolā¦but I will a conscious effort for LION to see how it effects me just doing beef. COOL, I got my sights set.
So everyone sum up how Jan. did for ya and think about what you want out of our next month. Nice thing is we got a great support group here, we got knowledgable carnivores who know what they are doing for themselves and working it fine plus they can offer great advice.
For me I am going to read this again!!
I am going to read it slowly again and carefully and pick which devil of a change I am going to try but whatever info I take from this and put into play, I am doing it extremely slowly and carefully. The devil is truly in the details on zc as we change things up for us because since we do rely solely on protein and fatā¦those ratios must suit us in our journey as we are on it as of this moment and monkeying with that food intake too much can be very detrimental to a carnivore, so I will read up again and truly think how I wanna roll a bit on my changes. LION is a big change, I donāt wanna focus too much āon losing fatā but I wanna read up on it again and just get some info under my belt on it again.
Carnivore on strong guys!!
Relic53
(Will)
#585
Wow last day of January, how time flies. Iām thrilled with how this month has helped improve my health. This way of eating is no longer simply participating in a month long challenge. This is now my normal way of eating. All the cravings that consumed me for years are nothing but a memory. I finally went out yesterday and bought new pants, my belt just wouldnāt hold them up any longer. When I started Keto in Nov ā21 I wore a size 42 in the waist. Yesterday I bought size 38 that actually fit very loose. I tried a 36 but they were a bit too snug but I did buy a pair because thereās no doubt Iāll be able to wear those very soon. No idea about what I weigh as I decided that the scale really doesnāt matter.
Today will be all about the Ribeye steaks!!
Fangs
#586
@Relic53
Truly loved every word of your post! Into Ferocious Fix February you go!!
Happy for your great changes Will!
Shinita
#587
Itās definitely not true for me. I crave nothing, I just gag thinking about eating, like, anything, maybe except a few things. I donāt want those things either, they give me zero joy but I can stuff into myself to stop my weakness, dizziness, loss of vision, balance and focus and all the other things hunger means to me. I donāt feel gnawing hunger, my insides feel okay but I know I need food if I want a functioning brain. I would gladly stop eating for days if I could. But sadly, I need food to function even temporarily. And what to do if I HATE all food? Itās a very bad situation.
I always had this with meat, itās a wonder I could do as many carni days in the last years as I did. I ate meat and then I was turned off for months. I have the same with booze, I canāt drink some and then wanting it in the next few weeks, normally.
But I managed to eat meat every day after I tried carnivore. I needed my low-meat breaks every week but I still ate some and I get regenerated in days!
But it changed now. Oh well. Itās not that bad I think but itās a bliss not eating meat now 
I am so lucky I donāt have also an egg aversion, I canāt imagine what I could eat then. (I do plan a plant-based day one day for funā¦ Maybe a meal onlyā¦ But maybe I wonāt do it, it sounds pretty scary. Me without my eggs? Thatās another person. I probably need a total meat+egg aversion for that to happen. As itās impossible for me to run out of them at the same time.)
I canāt even eat eggs when hungry every time. The first 5 is easy but then I do need variety, I canāt help it. And itās very serious hunger, it feels horrible. There is a reason I always eat when properly hungry.
So itās an individual things, we canāt all eat our staples when we are very hungry. And I never feel very hungry anyway, just very in need for fuel and that doesnāt mean I have the necessarily, at least zero appetite to eat (I manage a slight negative too now but if itās VERY negative, I gag and rather suffer but wonāt seriously force-feed myself).
We people are different. Alvaro doesnāt even know this āmuch hunger with very negative appetiteā combo, he has hunger and appetite synchronized. My urges are barely has any effect on each other. Very strong stubborn hunger used to raise my appetite to zero at least but it changed recently.
And almost every other person has the option to fast in this miserable situation but not me. Itās the worst feeling and I MUST eat (once I just ate LITTLE for 2 days and my body suddenly turned off my balance needed to be able to walk in the middle of a walk. I had to sit next to a pond for a while. I take its temper tantrums more seriously since). Even if itās hard. I just canāt force myself, thatās against my core personality and it would be bad anyway. I got days long egg hating when I didnāt force myself just ate too many eggs for 1-2 daysā¦ So thatās not a good solution.
Well, probably not me. My body handles low-carb but I have a naturally somewhat limited diet. It doesnāt seem so I suppose and I am open to eat many things indeed in needā¦ But only a tiny bit or for a single day. Then I am back at my eggs andā¦ What else? And I canāt live on mostly eggs for long. I can pull of some more dairy-richer days now but it canāt last long and I still need many eggs to eat enoughā¦ But not 20 so they do help I can eat vegetables in small amounts but they just cause hunger and not much joy so bad idea. Fruit is sugar so hunger and too sweet and when I ate much fruit in the last years? I donāt really eat grains. Maybe some nuts. Aaaand I am back to my super eggy sweets (how else could I eat nuts?) except I get bored of sweets in daysā¦
But I stop whining, I am actually quite fine now, just before a nice lunch with cheesy scrambled eggs! And if I am still hungry, I will have some boiled eggs. And possibly sponge cakes and an eggy coffeeā¦
At least I neednāt to worry about my nutrition as it wonāt last long (and my diet is pretty nutritious just lacking a few things like magnesium but I have pills).
The problem of low-carb for me is that I just add high-carb items while ignoring vegetables. If my rebellious self gets excited after the limited times, things may get out of hand. I probably hardly would slip into high-carb now but I still can do some damage. But itās super short-living nowadays so not a real concernā¦
I really loved my 80g net carbs low-carb back then but itās in the past. Not for me though. So I just take a tiny break until I come back to carnivore-ish. And I keep all my lunches carnivore-ish until then if possible. And my dinners ketovore or something (if possible). Just without meat. If itās too hard, I always can eat some meat, I have supplies.
Even though it eats way more plants than me in carnivoreā¦
But animals are like really poor people in poor countries, without all these artificial variety showered on us during our childhood and even later if we let it. I am pretty sure no one would crave ice cream if they never even touched sweets before. But after my first 3.5 decadesā¦ I just canāt undo the mental damage, okay it sounds a tad harsh though maybe true? I changed a lot, I almost never crave anything non-carnivore BUT I have all those memories, old habits, some attitudeā¦ I dislike saying I wonāt eat something ever again. Except if I really donāt see the appeal but I prefer to keep my options open. I am nothing like the average person who think itās horrible if they donāt taste everything nice looking at every celebrations (not like I go for more than one celebration a year nowadays)ā¦ No, I am fine with my chosen limited woe most of the time but I am nowhere as disciplined as most of you folks here. And itās LOADS worse mentally. I mean, I am fine not eating the vast majority of the food I physically could. But not thinking about them, experiment with baked goods? Food has this pull on me. And I donāt want it to this extent. Food excites me way too much. Even when I donāt want to eat at all.
Oh, itās end of January. I only realized this last night, I though itās already February beforeā¦
ONE thing I did in a disciplined way: I didnāt have cream in Januaryā¦
And I managed to have many days where I didnāt drink coffee until 3pm at least. I still had some heavy coffee days towards the end.
I had many carni days but not nearly as many as I planned but I had appetite problems.
I seem to curb my rebellious self easier now. Most carbs are just not desirable or I would enjoy them but they donāt worth it. So itās easy to say no after a whileā¦ And my low-carb dishes are just way more palatable than store-bought things or Alvaroās bread (that I make but itās eggless. still nice when fresh but not as nice as my eggy things in the same role).
And I have all the variety I possibly could want using eggs in my egg loving times (i.e. when the thought of my 11th egg in a few hours sounds nice. normally I only love the first 8-10).
I am not sure I want to have goals for February. I overdid trying in January (I will be more careful with fasting in Februaryā¦ Just because I donāt feel a too big hunger, I may push it too much) and it backfired. So I want to chillā¦ But I surely will have goals. Coffee isnāt needed for life so I try to be strict with that.
Fangs
#588
and that is a crux you have to work on a bit IF you feel it is detrimental to you.
I had food focus my whole life LOL
I wanted it all. Every darn thing I loved I wanted to inhale and keep on eating til busting.
you are right, we are all different but key is difference of any kind works point blank coming into carnivore if this is the plan you chooseā¦in that you work carnivore food options around āour own personal crazy and mental issues and food focus and tastes and wants of what meats/seafood fish and fowlā we will eat and more. Plus if one wants benefits of this plan, we donāt intentionally ever fast or put us on a āfasting rigid scheduleā ever. Our eating carnivore will naturally put us on an omad or 2mad eating style which gives us naturally a fasting time of just not eating cause we are not hungry. But some āenjoyā fasting and will do it but in full truth, many can not combine intentional strict fasting with carnivore. Carnivores donāt do that.
So key being of course we have to find us in all this but the moral of the plan is eat meat, seafood fish and fowl all the time. When ya want. Do not eat if you donāt want the above, cause when one is truly hungry, that meat etc. is gonna be SO tempting to us cause we truly found our real hunger.
Also NO ONE on this thread is hungry ya know to a level of, like your mentioned, poor country issues of really having NO foods available and are sickly from poor nutrition and more so our personal issues of hunger, what darn real frigginā hungerā is will be absolutely warped in a way but also our boldies nourished and thru health improvements on carnivore do show us more āreal hungerā but in the bitter end, not a darn one of us has gone into true hunger levels ever. Not like alot of the world has experienced.
Alot of times when we āchat hungerā here on this thread thru who we are it is about mental/mind hunger. There are days I say I was starving and couldnāt waitā¦darn straight I coulda waited and done fine vs. what the entire poor world population has to deal with in truth so I know when I feel that issue I am also grateful and take a breath and thinkā¦who are ya kidding here? Not yourself by any means It can be a mind game for sure where hunger is involved when one has food around them at all timesā¦not a doubt about that.
just some chatting it out
VirginiaEdie
(Edith)
#589
Actually, there are sheep on a Shetland Island that will eat baby birds in the spring because there are certain minerals lacking in the grass/forage that they eat.
There are stories of sailors suffering from scurvy that stuffed themselves with grass when they got off their ships because they had a craving for it. They thought it tasted delicious. Grass, of course, is not something they would have ever eaten normally or thought tasted delicious.
Geophagy (eating dirt or clay) is frequently practiced by iron deficient pregnant women in some third world countries.
I donāt think humans are any different than any other animals in the animal kingdom, especially if they are having tastes for foods that are unprocessed, in their natural state. Now, tastes for cookies, ice cream, pizza. That is a different matter.
So, Iām not stopping meat, Iām just cutting back on the quantity and amount of fat. I did add in some veggies and fruit. My body is happier with that at the moment.
I just finished reading a book called The End of Craving by Mark Schatzker. Iāve read all of his books. I really enjoy his writing style and this one, in particular, really gave me a lot to think about, especially were supplements are concerned. After what Iāve learned from reading his books, all my other research over the years, following the keto and carnivore ways of eating, I will continue to eat food in its natural state as much as possible.
When I first went keto from Atkins induction, I went the keto dessert route like a lot of us do. The End Of Craving gave the best explanation Iāve read about why alternative sweeteners are so bad, but also vitamin fortified foods, and foods that are engineered to taste fattier than they really are.
So, for now, not carnivore, more keto, but wholly unprocessed (well except for chopping and cooking, lol.)
Septimius
#590
I am having the exact same experience as you.
I know, objectively, that I enjoyed carb laden foods in the past - but I have absolutely zero desire for them. That has never happened to me before; there was always an element of willpower required to stay on whatever way of eating I was doing at the time. Keto was easier than CICO or low fat or whatever, but it was always a deliberate choice for me to abstain.
Carnivore is not like that. Itās as if these foods are very distant to me. I know, in the past, I enjoyed those foods but I have absolutely no desire to even try them.
The food quantity is definitely something that swirls around my mind - I know I post occasionally about it, always with the fear of doing the right or wrong thing. But I read this post and nodded along with it from start to finish; I almost couldāve written it myself.
Fangs
#591
yea I get that. I think I am putting our ātodays foodā against what nature intended life to be out there in the real natural order.
can you post that link on the sheep eating birds? I find that very interesting for sureā¦wanna read about that.
but key being if one has scurvy that is lack of fresh meat or vit C on board a ship so yea if I had scurvy I would come off the boat scarfing down anything I could get my hands on for relief LOL
It is natural order and all species will eat something outside the box of course at all times but I donāt think in the bitter end we can put ādesirable or temptation of tasteā and more to what they are needing. A sheep isnāt desiring a bird, it requires it maybe and it will eat it. So yea I get ya on that point but I think when it comes to ādesireā for variety it doesnāt happen in the animal world ever to a level of what a human would find desirableā¦so I guess I am talking levels of desire or food focus in a way. Needing a requirement/nutrition is one thing, wanting variety for the sake of taste etc. is a diff. angle I guess I was chatting
Good luck chopping those veg
too much work for me HAHA
But you do fine VE on how you swing around and you do yourself credit on feeling when a change is needed. All good steps
Karen18
(Karen)
#592
Aww Daisy i really feel for you. I got to zombie stage about 7 years ago and just ended up at the doctors. 8 asked for something to help me sleep and she put me on Zopiclone. Not a high dosage as I donāt like taking meds and aways try alternatives first and the only reason she gave me a repeat prescription was because it would take me a hood 8 or 9 months to use up one packet as I didnāt take them on a regular basis. Just one every now and again when I was desperate for a good night and even then they didnāt always take affect. I would generally take one before a work day or if away in hotel as I can never sleep in strange bed. I eventually got referred to the sleep clinic and they gave me a plan which was useless to follow whilst I am still working (even part time, partially retired) may try their method when I am fully retired.
Karen18
(Karen)
#594
Went to bed a tad bit later last night and wasnāt too long before the eyes were well closed. Up about 4 times for wee but you know when I say I have got up for a wee in the night it is never a gush but a very slow trickle! Drives me insane but there you go. When I do gush I always think ahhhhhh that was good lol hahaha
Up at 8am and stair runs done. Restful day, sat out in the lovely sunshine. Cold wind but I was fairly sheltered with a blanket on my lap, coat on and a hot brew to wrap my hands around. Relaxed listening to the birds. I am sure rthe Robin sings to let me know heās there so I can pop a little extra meal worms out for him lol.
Brunch was a mixed grill, no idea where the appetite came from to eat it all but I got through it. 1 big beef burger, I pork loin chop, 1 and a bit lamb chop.
I got them all out to defrost last night apart from the pork as that was fresh and in fridge already. I had absolutely no idea what meat I had got out as I never label it lolā¦ just lucky dip bags hahaha, I thought I was getting out bacon !
May have a repeat of brunch for dinner, we will see.
Fangs
#595
cool I will read it cause key being all research shows that if meat is fed to cattle that it triggers mad cow disease and more medical issues, so any meat protein added to cows has to be āvery very smallā and controlled, but that is thru controlled feeding of course.
So there is a huge diff. in feeding livestock meat proteins which has proven ill fated if not controlled tightly thru their feed or if an animal needs calcium or has that opportunity to ingest when it can which is a rare find for most animalsā¦but ground nesting birds sure would be at peril if a sheep needed some nutrient.
I think all animals have oddities or small requirements thru spending a winter on grass that is way less nutrient and more but you wonāt find this as āa real natural orderā ya know, as in every day eating life year round for a ruminant.
OK off to learn a bit more on it all, you got me wondering how toxic meat truly is to certain rums and it is toxic on higher levels for sure butā¦that bit of meat a cow or sheep eats might be making them happy, have one egg or baby bird too many and down they go to death.
Fangs
#596
@Karen18
too funny pulling out bacon and getting whatever I know, I do it. One pk of ribeyes looks the same as my NY Strips and I pull wrong packs also HA
Soldiering on in good form!
@Ketodaisy
have you considered a very very very very mild sleeping pill?
just wondering cause one couldnāt get me to ever take one LOL but in the end it could be a small simple fix for some much needed rest???
just a thought trulyā¦nothing more.
now my hubby loves loves loves a 1/2 cap of Nyquil ZZZ PM crap when he wants a good sleep. I tried that crap and I woke up with a headachy hangover and so foggy that my day was ruined. I canāt take Tylenol PM or anything like that, I feel it WAY too much in my system the next day but I think my hubby is addicted to it and does very well on it cause he pops out of bed like a trooper after taking it. For me I run from all that stuff. Just doesnāt suit me personally.
Karen18
(Karen)
#597
This month has really seen me lose the penchant for stilton cheese and most cheddars. No doubt the taste will return at some point. I am glad though as I do eat too much of it. Not added any salt this month and only had bacon perhaps a couple of times in order to get the salty taste when I felt I needed it.
I have been substituting my cold pints of water in the evening with hot water and that is also a āgo toā now quite a bit during the day.
Still a happy carnivore though and will continue on. Still plenty energy as far as plenty is since my blip and still no carb cravings.
Shinita
#598
Big fat nope! By the way Alvaro is with me, he can be totally very hungry since hours and not wanting any meat. I am the same, I just usually can handle meat. Not these days.
I am 1.5 hour after lunch so I am hungry and MUST go to eat.
Barely had 8 eggs and a bunch of cheese for lunch, it was okay enough but I canāt focus on anything this hungryā¦
And obviously many carnivores fast (well everyone fast between meals :D) as carnivores are people too. But I couldnāt care less about what carnivores do regarding fasting, I need fasting even more than extreme low-carb, itās very very vital and good to me. With a big eating window my food problems get WAY bigger.
I eat whenever I want, not just when I get hungry but I still need fasting, they are easy together. I just tried a tad hard on last group fast as my hunger wasnāt serious, my appetite was negative and my needing fuel signs were tiny. But it turned out it still was too much for me. I will do the same next time just wonāt continue fasting at 5pm if I wonāt be satiated, that should do the trick. Or even better, I try to NOT think about food and I just mind my other business until I get hungry a bit and I eat then. I will try a bit hard only one day when itās easiest. I need to train my fasting muscles, after all.
But I never had this problem, I think things piled up, that was the problemā¦
I think I have read about thatā¦
Horses eat chickens too sometimes, there are videos about it.
I think there are very few mammals eating exclusively meat or plants. Maybe none? Vegans and strict carnivores do it way more strict than animalsā¦
Oh I didnāt know thisā¦ But makes sense to me. Scurvy or not, if I was in a ship eating salted meat and hard tack dunked into rum and not even a bit of fresh stuff, I probably would eat grass too - despite I really hate most green leaves normally but well, I have variety here, alwaysā¦
Wow! While first world women lost this and they have no idea what they need, it seemsā¦
Cats feel the need to eat grass too sometimes. While people may be able to buy almost anything and they often eat in a horrible way, I didnāt even understand some. I didnāt eat right but not nearly as bad as others. I actually crave salt and fat and protein and other things if they are low in my diet. I donāt have this with minerals, sadly so I can get magnesium deficiency, I donāt feel it until I get cramps.
Not like meat was needed for my high protein everā¦ I did high-protein high-fat vegetarianism back then. I donāt even understand how anyone can eat too low protein, donāt they feel their body wanting it like me? I suppose not.
(And I still think I would do high-protein veganism if I was able to eat like that at all. But nope, I would just starve at some point I imagineā¦ Until my survival instincts would kick in and I would get used to the inevitable carbs. It would be still low-carb and very, very fatty. Maybe not that high protein but adequate. But why this idea attracts me now? Probably due to the zero meat. I am closest to veganism than in the last years. While being close to carnivore so the gap is still huge :D)
Wow, you are stricter than I could be. I need my processed items. Now on my vegetarian carnivore lunches cheese, later processed meat. A little spices up my food. I donāt crave them and itās perfect without them for some days but then I just get bored of my eggs and meatā¦
I hope your new woe will work for you splendidly!
I know the feeling. They just stop being food. Itās like when I went low-carb, grains stopped being food, it was great. But it got different on carnivore as I still had my carby chaos on low-carb and keto to some extent while carnivore was some calmer thing. (But then everything starts to stop being possible food even eggs and meat and I am lostā¦ But it takes a loooooong time and too little variety to get that. I only hated eggs for a while when I actually did vegetarian carnivore days. 1 or 2? I barely could think of eggs for a week but had to continue eating them. I starve without eggs. Well no, I rather eat bread and cake than starve but very bad things happen without eggs. Wait, I canāt eat cake and hardly any bread if I donāt have eggsā¦ Legumes and gluten then. I rather eat that than more carbs and I rather eat more carbs than starve. I have priorities. Sugar poisoning vs starvation is tough, I expect my body to get used to carbs eventually. Itās for apocalyptic situations, not if I can just buy low-carb food.)
I look at the photos here and nope, zero desire towards the meat at this point. I rather eat more scrambled eggs. I have a scrambled eggs phase Itās boring alone so I put things into/on it like cheese and sour cream but I canāt do that for long. Itās more fun with meat but not now.
I have labels on my boxes with meat inside but I often just remember them (itās for the already roasted ones, they never last long in the freezer, too comfortable to get them out and eat).
Not sun but I had more than usual energy and walked and run a bit and my workout went well. I went to bed early, like 1am and was asleep half an hour later, maybe? Good. Early waking still couldnāt happen but I am a tad patient.
Itās a coffee-y day but I will be better in Februaryā¦
robintemplin
(Robin)
#599
EXCELLENT NEWS! Kind of amazing, isnāt it? If someone would have told me I would be at this weight, with no cravings and no problems, I would not have believed it.
Karen18
(Karen)
#600
Second meal of the day ā¦ at 5pm (first was at 11am)
Ate the lamb and pork chops and left the burger in the pan, couldnāt face that but might have it cold tomorrow with some scrambled eggs ā¦ @Shinita got me wanting scrambled after reading her post! I do love scrambled eggs so long as they are just cooked in butter ā¦ hate it with cream in it!
Shinita
#601
Odd but after some borderline hungry hours after lunch I got kind of satiated and after a tiny dinner, I am full and very content. It was a heavily egg based keto day (still only 10 eggs), I am fine with it. Couldnāt even touch the egg stew today.
Never tried them with cream in itā¦ Only sour cream. WHY I didnāt fry them in butterā¦? I have little butter right now but I still can do it once or twiceā¦ Mmmm, butter. And eggs. Nice combo. I will do that tomorrow.