I can imagine such a thing, they may be viewed nice but totally unneeded things but indeed, I doubt it’s common. Even I am not like that as 1. I do eat a tiny amount of vegetables 2. I feel better at lower-carb and vegetables are very carby, I never could go way below 40g net carbs while eating them 3. I lost interest in most. That definitely helped And of course the point 2 helps a lot, why would I abstain if there isn’t any reason for it - except that just because something is okay and tasty, I don’t need to eat it. I was a vegetarian while I had zero problems with meat and my favorite item was some good fatty pork, nothing I ate was as tasty as that… And I felt no problem with it as I had good enough food anyway (and I had my principles and goals. I still have most of them but my decisions are still different).
And I abstained from things here and there purely out of doinjg something more clean. It is useful sometimes. But I am a hedonist and I tend to add back harmless things, labels be damned No, I didn’t do it for labels, it’s just safer to do things more clean instead of stepping on a slippery slope. But the stuff must be present for it. I won’t go out of my way to eat something I find tasty and my body is fine with it if it’s not needed. As long as I am fine with eggs and meat, I don’t just add things, I enjoy simplicity. I have ZERO problem with walnuts and I adore them, it’s one of the tastiest thing in existence and we have them now. But I am fine without… For a while, at least. They won’t even getting close to tempting me in my dedicated carni months (November, January). If it is longer, I start to think that WHY would I keep myself from it…? Just out of principle? I do carnivore-ish only anyway as default, not pure carnivore, what could some more extra hurt (and that’s the slippery slope thinking I should get rid of, actually…). But as time passes, more and more items loses its pull. Even if I could eat them, even if I like their taste, I just don’t feel the need at all. it’s simpler and better to stick to my normal food. If I go off, I always start to long to a stricter woe again… That works best. But I don’t need to stick to it all the time to feel as good as I can, it seems. (Though, why risk it unless I am tempted - I can’t and don’t want to resist temptation so that’s it then, I eat the thing, I accepted this long ago. I can train myself though. The more carnivore days I do, the less power things have on me - except maybe meat, it would be almost impossible for me to live without it as what else could I eat, only eggs don’t work. It’s freedom and very enjoyable! Way more than eating some inferior tasting plant, good meat wins the taste competition every time. Except in the case of the best fruits. The other stuff is just… Different and is there… But not a loss not to eat it if I can pull it off.)
Maybe it helps people understand how some of us work. I argued about my food choices with people who seemingly had no idea how someone like me feels. The biggest incompatibility was with people who considered food ONLY fuel, they often considers food hedonism horribly wrong, someone tried to make me abandon this I couldn’t do that if I tried, my hedonist inner self runs the whole show that is me, others help it, sure but it’s the main one. Whatever I do, I always ask what maximizes joy… It can’t just turned off… Health is still more important and some principles too but they very rarely interferes, my food enjoyment isn’t in any danger if I stick to the food best for my body (and a little extra that can’t hurt, sometimes ;)).
Oh and challenges are fun too, I often try to live without something I very much love and feel okay but yep, for a hedonist like me those restrictions can’t hold, it’s just for a short while. And when we do these challenges, normally we want something from it, it’s not just for the sake of challenge though surely such cases exist…
I am SO very happy I can still enjoy all the zillion fruits I have in my garden, even without eating them. Eating is problematic as modern fruits are way too sweet for my body, I am most sensitive to quick sugars especially eating alone. Even a little fruit may feel not so great but it varies greatly and some sausage aftercare helps… But I have the trees, I visit them often and watch how the fruits progress, I can smell, I can look… It’s quince season now, well that fruit smells wonderful! I cut up several yesterday and today too. Okay it’s easy not to eat quince as it’s so hard raw and only my SO likes them that way. and I totally forgot about our last grapes but they are like honey, tasty but borderline impossible to eat. But I eat less and less fruit anyway, since years, it started way before I went close to carnivore but I totally lost the need for them afterwards. I couldn’t not eat fruits on my original keto every day…
Sigh. If I start to talk about fruits, it’s hard to stop… I so, so so adore them!!! Lovely things. In their overly sugary way. And half-ripe ones don’t have the flavors, not only some sugar is missing… Oh well.
So I still enjoy the hell out of my very thorough fruit garden (my soil is too poor for vegetables though I have several tomatoes per year. It’s one of my surviving vegetable, I mean, I still eat them occasionally as they goes great with eggs and meat, some egg/meat dishes requires it just like onions. We have some opened jar so today’s rabbit stew will have some tomato as well, it’s common in stews though we rarely do that style except in the case of egg stews. Those two vegetables became occasional flavorings. But if I am not bored with my roasts at the moment, I don’t eat them as they aren’t needed, no matter how extremely delicious they are (and sweet so I need to enjoy them until I can. I already can’t eat sweeter tomatoes or use more than a little onion in a big dish, sweet capsicum is out too - capsicum is my vegetable number 3 as it’s CRUNCHY and I am so much intro crunchiness. I only eat the crunchy kind with very little taste, raw as it’s all about crunchiness and juiciness, not the taste. but if my SO didn’t buy them, I wouldn’t either, it’s not that important. just nice and why not to take a slice occasionally? as time passes, I find the idea less and less tempting anyway. I am fine with natural progression of things, I only train myself regarding the problematic things, not some innocent tiny extra).
Another food joy that remained in my life is cooking and baking. I live with a high-carber with a huge sweet tooth (he eats dessert about 20 times a week? it’s a perfect breakfast for him. it’s good he makes most of those, I so wouldn’t :D) so I can enjoy making various kinds of food. It’s a double-edged sword for a food addicted hedonist who half-lived on sweets for decades but it’s training - and if I don’t want to eat cake, I don’t make cake I like, fortunately he enjoys the ones I got bored with. And I got bored of cakes on keto years ago, I ate them all the time as I saw no better option… And I still am not into them at all. I just like to experiment and make new recipes. Too bad it involves tasting the result so I do it rarely. The old recipes are fine, I don’t ever need to taste those.
Social things has nothing to do with food as far as I can tell for myself (I am a hermit and have my own opinion about things anyway, I don’t just accept things so I probably see these differently? and we have different cultures too. or different circumstances. hospitality is huge in my country but I was lucky with my relatives, they rarely tried to push, I ate whatever I wanted, most of the time. that’s not the best when one doesn’t know what is best for them but can be tempted with almost anything but I am better now). I can talk and even cook with people without eating differently than how I want… Pressure has no chance, temptation is more serious but if I am determined, it’s easy. At least with my rare access to people and their food, it must be harder every day but well, I live with a high-carber and I am at home almost all the time, hours in the kitchen, I think about food almost all the time… It’s probably not considered the easiest circumstance but it actually is still very easy. I don’t make tempting carby food and as time passes, it’s a wider and wider range… But my SO isn’t choosy so I feed him lots of low-carb and even some carnivore food… What he adds to it is his business. Usually I can get away with feeding him some meat too…
It’s very interesting to watch how our eating changes with time.
So… There is plenty to enjoy even if someone do carnivore - but actually, after all my food addiction times and some struggles after drastic woe changes… It’s soooo nice when I lose interest in food and only really focus on it once a day for a little while. Food shouldn’t be our number one joy and interest all the time… It’s no big deal if it’s just a quick (but not too quick) refuel for a while, we don’t necessarily lose much… Or any.