Carnivore 30-day Challenge - Carniv-August 2024!


(Judy Thompson) #61

@LizinLowell Wow, so sorry to hear about your friend. That’s a terribly sad story.
It’s sad that we can’t go blithely to the hospital expecting to be “repaired” but it’s necessary to do our own research or at least have a friend we trust who will do it for us. I’m heartened by @FrankoBear every time he says “I declined that procedure.”


(Liz ) #62

Thank you. Yes, I totally agree.

The tricky part is they get you at your most desperate and vulnerable and it’s so easy to fall for anything they suggest if you don’t have an idea in your head first to slow things down and make your own decisions. Helps to have an educated advocate along as well, I did that for my dad for years.


(Judy Thompson) #63

The tricky part is they get you at your most desperate and vulnerable…
Exactly!


(Karen) #64

No dancing this weekend…not a great nights sleep…you would think after all the exercise i would zonk all night but last night i woke up about an hour n half after dropping off then it was up and down and downstairs for half n hour then back to bed, back to sleep then another toilet trip… geeez ! Got a number of alterations pinned ready to sew, watered the garden, read my books, and took a walk with my trolley to the shops this afternoon. The trolley became very heavy to pull as i bought more than i went out for :roll_eyes: ! So got the bus home, thought that might save my neck and shoulder getting pulled!

Brunch was a tough steak… the last of the tough ones thankfully but they were only 50p each in The Company Shop so i can’t grumble. Had a bit of cheddar, a tub of herrings and some chick wings.


(Liz ) #65

My return to OMAD is going well, my food addiction didn’t even give me grief about skipping lunches.

I think I could eat carnivore twice a day and not gain weight if I quit dairy. But I’m not ready for that yet. Someday.


#66

Hey, thanks everyone for your community support. It’s much appreciated. I am a coffee addict. Four days after the hospital episode I was still feeling pretty rough with headaches, brain fog, chest aches and lethargy. The 300km drive home looked like too big a task. I went to my favourite barista and had my first coffee since going in to hospital. Within 10 minutes I was feeling great. That is a sad realisation. But an important diagnosis. I got back down to the homestead in the forest near the wild, winter ocean.

I started today with black coffee. Breakfast was at 1pm. I cooked up four lamb loin chops, started with some ghee, and then had a 4-egg omelette cooked in the pan fat. The past two days I have had steak for dinner. One night with two fried eggs. Breakfasts had been 4-egg omelettes with bacon cooked on the wood fire. Delicious biltong has been eaten. I’ve had coffee, but my go-to warm drink is beef bone broth. We had a raining weekend with some cold south winds. I also tried some kefir. That might be nice in summer.

My immediate manager (not the problematic one) told me to take some days off. I don’t need to be told twice. The manager above my problematic manager has taken over as my line manager. There are about 7 levels of management I have to deal with. Being a teacher facing the students, they regard me in their hierarchical thinking as the lowest, like a business corporation. I’m a bit more egalitarian and regard us all as a soccer (‘football’) team all on the same pitch aiming to kick goals. Nobody is supposed to be running around the pitch carrying anybody else. Yes, I am difficult to manage, it seems, with me not accepting the ‘power’ structure. So, I’m on ‘sick’ leave. I like to think of it as relaxing time.

I checked in with my general practitioner doctor (GP). They were the youngest doctor in the practice when I joined it. It was a practice of middle-aged male doctors, and my current doctor was the only female doc. She’s a women’s health specialist. She now owns the practice. The three male doctors have left. Two retired with ill-health, and the other, younger, male doctor moved away seeking more money.

I’m a bit worried as my current doctor’s first name is “Candy”. She is very healthy looking and smiles a lot. She looked through my heart history and listened to my ER story, commenting, You don’t take doctor’s instructions very well. I explained that asking questions is not actually defiance. She laughed. I mentioned about feeling stressed and how, despite eating a very low-carb way, I have had some bodyweight gain. She checked my heart and blood pressure which were normal. We went through some blood work that I got blood draws for last week and noted that there were no abnormalities (I need to get a print out). She said that my nutrition was good and asked about feeding frequency, to which I replied 2MAD. She asked if I could leave, or change my job. I noted the previous doc asked the same. But I like teaching, I just don’t do well with people managing me, especially as every review shows my work is good (except for taking instructions for managers). My work is good where it matters.

So, my GP doctor gave me homework. 1. Eat better (She said, whatever you are doing, you can do it better), 2. Focus on rest and sleep (no screens and computers after work), 3. Prioritise activity like going an walks in the forest or along the beach with my wife and dog (I felt sorry for the cat) and, acknowledging my undiagnosed ADHD, 4. A research project - look into the cost/benefits of Ozempic (Semaglutide) micro-dosing as a mental health treatment. Cripes, did that last one send me down a rabbit hole. :rabbit2:

#4 deserves it’s own topic.


(KM) #67

You are on sick leave - you’ve left because you’re sick of them! :stuck_out_tongue:

I actually did watch that 2+ hour Tucker Carlson interview with the Means siblings. Casey Means pointed out that, as a neurosurgeon, she was pushed into more and more specialization (more and more prestige and money), with basically NO training about looking at the whole patient, knowing anything at all about the connection between symptoms of other areas of the body, or for root causes to people’s seemingly unconnected symptoms. 10 symptoms = 10 specialists, 10 procedures, 30 medications. What she said in effect was, “I got no training whatsoever in uncovering the root cause of any medical symptom, including those of my own specialty.”

Maybe I’m off on a tangent here, but that still shocked me. That not only would Big (funding the majority of medical schooling) encourage pills, procedures and products, which isn’t surprising, but misdirect and more or less forbid doctors in training from asking the question, “what’s causing this?” (Or being educated in the potential answers to the question.) That’s horrifying to me.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like most doctors who remain at the GP level do much except refer any more. “Eat better?” There’s a cop-out if I ever saw one!


(Bean) #68

Quote one kinda indicates quote two, lol.


#69

Diced lamb was on special at the Grower’s Market in town and here was some interesting beef. The farmers own the store. They had killed a steer and butchered it up. So, there was offal on offer as liver and kidneys, as well as tongue. The hoggets are also ready for slaughter and the lamb is fresh.

It’s the end of winter and the chickens are having a break from laying. That means eat more meat until they start up again with increasing daylight. And not buy eggs produced under artificial light conditions.

Lamb stewy casserole cooked on the woodfire stove is filling the home with delicious aromas. the broth is bone broth.


(Liz ) #70

On a rare moment alone, I walked through the grocery store and my food addict’s mind said “You can get anything you want, you know, even something addictive!” With that “permission” from my self-destructive side I scanned the offerings like a little kid with access to a drawer full of candy. And what did I want most? Scrambled eggs with lots of grass fed butter lololol Keto animal foods life really is something else :smile: It doesn’t always go this way, but that it can go this way at all after a lifetime of food struggles is a miracle to me.


(Karen) #71

Oooh where has the week gone? I have been to CrossFit Sat, Mon, Tue and Thur this week so far. Been a great week for workouts albeit i have no legs left after yesterdays workout…it was the 8 minutes worth of burpees done after the main workout! My legs were very wobbly at the end, mind you the main workout almost killed them off before starting the burpees!!



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Food eaten this week


Also eaten some black puddings, cheese, tinned tuna and a few cafe brunches … mostly eggs n black pudding. Been off steaks this week but got some out for today… think i need some strength food for tomorrows CrossFit session as i have had a peeky preview. Definitely feel i am getting back on top and thoroughly enjoying the workouts.

I didn’t sleep well last night and had to pop downstairs for an hour… had to do that a few nights back too and i am sure it is because we have had a strange full moon this week… started very orange and then it was so bright the next night that i had to close my curtains in order to block it out of the room. Anyway i have just had complete rest today, i did want to get out for a walk but honestly couldn’t be bothered and it has been very windy today. I am sure the gusts we have had for 3 days are down to that strange old moon!


#72

I was away for a few days and I think I send what I wrote before… And I wrote a bit more.

Great! I wish I will be able to do it myself. Or TMAD as it suits my carni more (when I actually do carni, I should push it in September, it’s a good month for carnivore I think and I surely need it, not like I have particular problems but I know I should do better already), I tend to eat smaller meals on carnivore, after all (not always, of course). But maybe dinner OMAD would be different… Either way, I will push for lunch skipping again, that seems a great idea for me. I still can have dinner and second dinner that way… I don’t mind, I just want proper macros, whatever they are for me (I have some idea but I am not a robot so my days are different).

Thankfully I couldn’t gain even with dairy (at least if I am careful not to go really very far… the same with added fat) but losing is elusive… I will go stricter when I will be able to.


We will have our tiny vacation starting tomorrow! We decided it will be best this year and sea comes next year, be it Croatia by car or Sicily by plane…
Just 3 days next to Hungary’s second biggest river, the place where it becomes a lake :smiley: Not a true one I guess as it’s a river but it surely has that name.
I bring food (roasted pork loin, we both love it and it’s great cold too… eggs and cheese too and bread as well as we can’t just buy it in a supermarket, even Alvaro has standards when it comes to that) and we will eat fish! The village is all about tourism there, there are some nice places to eat, both oldschool and modern. I want the mixed fish plate and plan to bring photos (they won’t be perfect though, there will be side dish and breading for one of the 3 options, it’s the fish I like least so try to feed it to Alvaro. he probably won’t complain. I don’t even get WHY they add flour to a fish, isn’t it better when I can enjoy its own flavors without interference…? I may understand eggs but flour… It’s not like it’s tasty and the fish gets crispy alone just fine. the breading adds calories and crispiness without drying out for low-carb vegs and mushrooms but meat hardly needs it. never was a fan). Even if we still don’t have the right lens for the camera, we can try to tablets but they are pretty bad so rather not.

I fried a little part of the possibly ribeye, no photos, it probably would bother some people’s sensibilities or something :smiley: I wasn’t in the mood to read about it again, I just fried it in a pan in 12 minutes. I think I prefer when beef is cooked for hours (I know that is some very different type of dish :D) but we definitely will visit a steakhouse at some point. I have no idea how to do things and I am unwilling to do special things anyway. I am used to getting away without any work whatsoever when it comes to meat. I just fry or roast my cheap pork and bam, possible perfection (depends on the actual meat but it’s always pretty good just not always pure bliss. good loin or chuck does the trick though).
Beef stew is made like other stews and that one is good. Still a bit chewy but less so than this fried thing. And the tallow smell and taste bothered me a bit. It usually doesn’t if it comes with meat but maybe this is fattier so it’s more obvious. I very much dislike tallow, always did.
So it wasn’t a success but it’s edible and variety. A bit too chewy though. IDK what would have happened with less time…

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Oh my, it was SO HOT and it was 3 nights, not 2 :frowning: I walked sooo much and I can’t walk so well yet, super hot, headache… The last day was much nicer, that was fine (still a ton of walking :smiley: and then much resting).
I should have brought more meat, possibly but I bought grill sausages and pâté. We ate smoked catfish and shrimp, among others… It wasn’t carnivore, me in August? Of course not but not that far.
Alvaro bought bread as he managed to eat his big one in 2 days, he tried to choose well but he wasn’t impressed. Yeah, I bake better ones. Especially my low-carb ones are good but it’s just my opinion, not his, of course. But each to their own.
There was some coffee in the apartman and I had a headache in this weather (I couldn’t even sleep so well due to it but a cold shower at 2am and opening the windows helped… oh cold showers were pure bliss) so I still didn’t have coffee free days. Sigh. We had some beach time, IDK what other people can do for more than 1 hours, we had quick but nice ones. And we saw some birds we can’t see here. I may bring photos later if we were successful with our shots.

LIDL has some new cheese and it goes on the usual very good sale. And it’s tasty! :smiley: I envision cheesy days in my near future. I don’t eat many eggs, meat varies but dairy is high now. Dairy is so very good…

There was rain here and a huge wind, a thuja fell on the terrace. A dead one. And we already had a ton of branches to burn… But Alvaro has another week at home so he will cook over open fire more than usual.

I want more rain and cooler temperature but not even the forecast says that. (And we wouldn’t believe it anyway, it talked about cooler and cooler days, well nope. Okay, the dawn isn’t hot, there is that :frowning: )


(Robin) #73

Yes! I think it may take a while, but my body eventually decided that it preferred and desired the healthy food I provided


(Geoffrey) #74

Yesterday I slow smoked a leg of lamb and then shredded it.

Today it was eggs and a venison burger stuffed with crawfish and cheese.
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(Geoffrey) #75

Kept it simple today. Just pan fried some venison stew meat in tallow and then made a dipping sauce from the leavings in the pan with some butter.
Plain but good.


(Bean) #76

I went to the meat producer a county over, took my coolers and stocked up. Their meat is so much better. When I showed up with my coolers they said that there are groups who come down out of Chicago (mostly Ukrainians) and do the same thing. I guess the Ukrainians know what’s up. Bought some local quail eggs, too. Just because they are cute.

I want to set myself a challenge for September. September 1 is my one year since I started to Carnivore, although I wasn’t 100% the first 6 months. Hubby wanted to know if I wanted steak knives. (No, but a Blackstone might be nice, lol).

I know I can’t do no caffeine (I haven’t been off my adhd med long enough for that), but I might do no coffee. It would still be fewer botanicals. I’ve considered ruminants only, but poultry makes everything easier because I can cook once for hubby and I. He doesn’t eat goat, lamb, or bison regularly. Yes, I have all three and usually sub pork for him on those days.

I don’t know thoughts from anyone who has streamlined? I always come up short on fat on poultry days, and I do need to be in the 2:1 keto range. I still have about 6# of chicken skin. I’m kind of off ground meat for a while. I’ve eaten a lot this month, and even with careful handling, I suspect some histamine intolerance going on. Of course cheese also doesn’t help, lol.

Anyhow, I’ll have the second round of interviews with a different department on the same campus in September, and I want to feel my best. I also want to drop cheese, eggs, coffee, and maybe pork/chicken to see if I can clear some stuffiness and drop a little weight. Right now I weigh more than I did a year ago.

September is a good month because there are few holidays that fill our house with family, although we always have a weekend or two. They just tend to be day trips instead of overnights.

I haven’t had goat in a long time. I’ve got some ground partial thawed in the fridge that I’ll cook this evening. We’re headed out to the farm today to work. Looking forward to it.


(KM) #77

How about a food dehydrator so you can easily make your own jerky? I know it’s more Stuff, but at least it has a purpose in keeping with your general goals. :slight_smile:


(Geoffrey) #78

Eggs, venison and pork rind pancakes.
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Later on I had a smoked leg of lamb chafflewich.


(Megan) #79

This is hilarious and adorable. Also its impressive there was no sign of any guarding.

DENTASTIX Mum 15 Sec Au Revoir Dreams (youtube.com)


(Judy Thompson) #80

Still here. I’m doing about 95% carnivore, with lime squeezes and a minor amount of fruit (2 bites). Blood sugar is staying in the 70s at night with postrandials up to about 125. I’m very wary of fiber, which doesn’t agree with my digestive abilities!
Other than those morning bites my omad lunches are the same. Ribeye or ¼ chicken or a couple slabs of pork roast. Eggs and bacon after gigs.
Sailing along on an animal based plan.