Bulletproof coffee. Can I make it with coconut cream?

(essalj) #1

Hi.

Can I substitute butter and cream with coconut cream. To me it looks like a good an healthy alternative. Or am I forgetting something here?

Best regards
Lasse

(MooBoom) #2

You sure can!

(Allie) #3

You can make it any way you want to make it.

(Jane) #4

What she ^^^ said.

As long as it has fat in it, it is a BPC.

(Allan Misner) #5

It depends. Some countries have very strict laws over what you can and cannot call a food/drink. If you like it, call it something else, like Lasse Coffee.

#6

Healthy as opposed to what? Vegatable oil?

From what I can find, Coconut cream is fairly high in carbs and not really that high in fat compared to Heavy Whipping Cream, and especially Butter.

You might try coconut oil though as a sub for butter, that’s pretty similar, though many need to ease into that due to it’s early laxative effects.

NOTE: I’m basing this on what I can find in the USDA Food Composition Database. Individual products may vary, but I haven’t seen any in here that are far from the above.

Side note: If you want to make really bulletproof coffee, you should use ballistic nylon.

EDIT: Found a few “Premium” and brand coconut creams in the database that were much lower in carb and higher in fat. They still aren’t as good on this as HWC, and especially not at Butter levels, but they’re maybe acceptable range anyway. Won’t get as much out of it, but it might work, you’d just need to be very careful which you are using as most of these are more than flipped on the fat - carb numbers.

(Karim Wassef) #7

Coconut cream is not high in carbs… it’s very high in saturated fat and an excellent vegan alternative. Also… very tasty. Add monk fruit extract, mix and refrigerate = great Keto desert. For example:

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#8

Yea, see the edit I had put above. It depends on the product.

But, for instance, the very first thing called “Coconut Cream” in the USDA database is this:
https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/45313444?fgcd=&manu=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=default&order=asc&qlookup=coconut+cream&ds=&qt=&qp=&qa=&qn=&q=&ing=

Which has 2.5g Fat, and 26g Carb (22 sugar).

Matter of opinion there (I can’t stand the taste of coconut).

(Allie) #9

That entry you found looks more like a yoghurt than coconut cream

#10

That may be. It’s also called Coconut Cream though and is the top result for Coconut cream in the USDA Database.

I happened to try randomly lower and the next thing I found was this, which is a bit better maybe but still 9x as many carbs as fat:
https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/45137052?fgcd=&manu=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=default&order=asc&qlookup=COCONUT+CREAM%2C+UPC%3A+070470469041&ds=&qt=&qp=&qa=&qn=&q=&ing=

After looking further, it’s simply a mixed bag it seems, and I happened to hit on a bunch that were like this (“Cream of Coconut” as the same problem, it seems, by the way). That reinforces the point though that you have to check the particular product, as some things called coconut cream are going to be very problematic, some may not be.

(Karim Wassef) #11

The flavor varies too but it can be whipped to change texture and augmented to change flavor combinations.

#12

If it has any hint of the flavor of a coconut, I’m still out. Can’t even stand extra virgin coconut oil in peanut butter dark chocolates I’ve made myself, can only go with the refined stuff that has no flavor (and even some of those I’ve found aren’t “flavorless enough”). That’s a personal problem though and the flavor is a different topic anyway.

(Karim Wassef) #13

True. I love the flavor of coconut. The stronger the flavor, the more I enjoy it.

(Charlotte) #15

Me too! I love the smell and the taste. yummy!

(John) #16

Most of the time I drink coffee black. When I do want some extra flavor or color, I use Calafia Farms unsweetened “Better Half”, which is made from coconut cream and almond milk. 15 calories per 2 tbsp, and all of those calories are from fat.

I get it at my local Sprouts Farmers Market. It fits into every way of eating - vegan, low carb, low cal, non-dairly. Probably not even enough calories to interrupt fasting.

I know that sounds like an ad, but I am merely a consumer of the product and have no relationship to the companies mentioned.

NOTE: Read the labels on their products - they make a variety in different flavors. Some have a good amount of added sugar. The one I linked above is the unsweetened variety.

#17

It’s not carnivore. Then again, coffee technically isn’t either.

(John) #18

Yep, you got me. Just put some bacon grease in a cup of hot water, without first filtering the water through ground plant seeds.

(essalj) #19

Wauvv, thanx for all the answers.
This is truly the forum to hang out in for getting smarter about keto.

Thanx again

Lasse

(Sheri Knauer) #20

What is the reason for switching?

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #21

Welcome to the forums! I’m not sure what you mean by the phrase “good and healthy alternative,” since butter and cream is just as healthy an alternative as coconut cream, possibly even healthier. Contrary to the official advice, monounsaturated and saturated fats are actually healthier for us than the polyunsaturates, which are useful only in very small quantities in the diet.

Also, and just to get technical for a moment, a true Bulletproof coffee follows Dave Asprey’s recipe, since he invented the concoction, published the recipe in his book, and trademarked “Bulletproof” as the name of his Web site, etc. But so many ketonians are in the habit of calling any fat-laden coffee mix “Bulletproof,” that I suppose Dave will eventually lose the trademark. . . .