Broth / Concentrate / Collagen / Etc - what's the deal?

#21

The collagen does wonders for skin and muscle. I use the Garden of LIfe brand Grass Fed Collagen putting a scoop in my coffee daily. (Each serving contains about 18 g of protein.) I’m 53, and my skin looks “amazing” - according to my co-workers. I got carded the other day while buying beer for hubby. Seriously, that was awesome. I laughed all the way home.

I have no knee/joint pain anymore either, despite 5 knee surgeries. Now, I don’t necessarily need the collagen powder, as I raise grass fed beef cattle, and make my own bone broth. But, I don’t drink it for breakfast. Coffee I drink, and the powder works best in there.

The Garden of LIfe brand is available online, probably on Amazon or other retailers like Walgreens, Vitacost, or iHerb. They may sell it right off their own website. Hadn’t checked that out, but, I’m thinking I got mine off Vitacost or Walgreens.com. HTH.

(Alex ) #22

I’m not far off ancient! Not if the pains in my back and grey hairs in my stubble are anything to go by!

(Alex ) #23

I’m sold!

#24

Carnivores don’t ‘live on broth’ as a meal replacement ever. Alot of people on other plans kinda use it for that ya know sometimes.

What zc people do is eat a meal first…eat a big old steak or ribs or whatever, then if you want some broth to sip, go for it.

We just never use liquid as a ‘kinda meal constant’ in our lives. Sure have some if you enjoy it, but never let it take your appetite for real meat happen, and it can for some, for others this doesn’t happen, so just know you when adding something like bone broth into your day.

(Robin) #25

Can you tell me which collagen you use? Exactly? I’m game!

(Jane) #26
(Alex ) #27

I’ve seen this online today!

(Alex ) #28

I’m double game

(Robin) #29

Don’t make me triple dog dare you… I just ordered!

(Alex ) #30

I’ve just quad-dare slapped you down and ordered two different brands for delivery tomorrow!

(Robin) #31

Curses, foiled again!

(Jane) #32

Don’t expect overnight results - it takes time to build back the collagen. I got to the point where I didn’t believe it was really helping and stopped for 2 months.

I was in a BBQ line with colleagues a couple of months ago and one gasped and pointed at my arm. Blood was running down it and I never felt where I had scratched it so back to paper-thin skin. One of my group had a tissue and I pressed it to my arm to stop the bleeding and was so embarrassed.

Been back on collagen ever since and happy with the results.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #33

I eat 120 grams of protein daily from a variety of sources. I don’t eat product ‘servings’, I eat mixtures of ingredients measured by gram which include both so-called ‘whole foods’ like meat, fish and eggs and also ‘processed’ foods like whey, casein, cheeses and sausages. I eat Progressive’s hydrolyzed collagen (6.4 gr) as part of my daily ‘keto mix’. I eat Purely Inspired’s bone broth mixed with cream and usually cacao butter, and sometimes MCT oil, several days per week but not daily. Depends on what else I’ve eaten on any particular day. Same for plain gelatine. I don’t eat it every day, but frequently.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #34

Tonight’s creamy bone broth

20 grams Purely Inspired bone broth, 3.6 grams Progressive collagen, 10 grams Organic Traditions cacao butter, 90 grams Avalon Dairy whipping cream. 42.40 grams of fat, 21.22 grams of protein (almost all collagen, there’s 1.35 grams of milk protein), 2.97 grams of carbs (from the cream); 469 calories. Fat:protein ratios: 2:1 grams, 4.5:1 calories. Carbs:total ratios: 4.46% grams, 2.48% calories. Hot and frothy! My ‘nightcap’ for the day. Note: boiling water added to top up to about 750 ml total.

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(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #35

This confuses me. Maybe because I’m not a Carnivore™. Unless I missed it, no one advocates drinking bone broth as a substitute for eating other stuff. No one has said “Toss the meat and drink the broth”. It’s just an additional way to extract more nutrients from animal bones. And very good nutrients they are which you’re not going to get from that ‘big old steak or ribs or whatever’. So I fail to see the problem.

#36

yes Michael it might be since you don’t eat carnivore you don’t follow some of the common plan concepts we do follow for this plan. One of the first things a new zc person hears is that never let jacked up coffee or bone broth or any other liquid take your appetite from you. Thing is many zc people when they drink bone broth will find it akin to keto/lc plan people using ‘bulletproof’ coffee as breakfast and not needing food because they drink that jacked up coffee. It can take your appetite away from many people, bone broth and bulletproof coffee.

So zc people do not want that. Liquid drinks, while nourishing like bone broth can’t not be a focus to take you off real animal protein. The zc meal is the healing priority. Not liquids. Animal protein meals trump anything you can get in bone broth. While good, animal protein food is better.

So zc eaters will ‘always eat first’ then have bone broth or coffee after if you still want it. That is how we approach liquids that can rob our appetites a bit. Focus is food heals and is our priority at all times, drinks of any kind are secondary.

#37

No, people doing carnivore have very various attitudes and habits and tastes too :slight_smile: Obviously. People are individuals even though they don’t always show it. Just skipping plant matter don’t make them all the same.

A broth would make me hungry but I love soups. So it’s a perfect first source on a carnivore meal. I surely will use it as much as I can in my carni November :wink: Well, maybe it’s more like meat soup and I don’t cook my bones into oblivion and I use meaty bones but I would enjoy some proper broth too I am sure. Soup, that’s the main thing. I drink it for the joy but of course good stuff inside is always welcomed…
In this country soup is important and it’s always the first course but I feel it’s perfect for the first course anyway. My stomach capacity is nice and I don’t drink liters from soups nowadays, it won’t interfere with eating - but if it did, I just would eat another meal later. I really don’t see the problem in my own case… Either way, I will need my food and I will eat it. But I start with the soup.

(Edith) #38

It is not that hard to make the broth yourself and you will find that the homemade stuff tastes soooooo much better.

(Alex ) #39

@VirginiaEdie

I just don’t have the time and because it’s just me cooking for me usually, there aren’t enough ingredients. I have no issues with the pre-bought stuff though to sample the benefits.

#40

yea I bought a brand called Fire and Kettle? or something like that and it was OK…made bone broth a few times, and for me, way too much work LOL

In the end, I used ‘some broth’ thru my journey but I didn’t ‘need it’ ya know. Like some people love this stuff, to me in the end it just wasn’t something I wanted to keep in my life. It was a personal decision to dump it to the wayside and I am the type that was more, wanting something? fry up a ribeye or filet mignon and ditch the liquid. But see I am not a coffee drinker either. Always hated coffee and barely tolerated tea so I think I am not one ‘inclined’ to need that steaming cup of anything in my hands. I think sipping hot liquids out of a cup is some kind of comfort addiction? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: LOL Heck I don’t know but it wasn’t something I found I needed at all.

People would chat on threads saying OH MY GOSH winter is coming and I need low carb soups to replace my others, I need new hot steaming low carb drinks to replace my bad ones…it was always about replacements of some sort for the bad version stuff you are giving up. I never needed to replace hot liquids cause I hate soups, coffee etc.

Just chatting it out. You might use it and find down the line you really don’t need it and then you might find out that you love the stuff and drink a hot cuppa with every steak you eat. I know alot of people want the bone broth for its nutrients but also want that ‘steamin’ cup’ in their hands when winter slaps at us.

It will be interesting to see if it stays with you or is just an interest you will try and then dump. On carnivore, many of us try alot of different meats/seafood/fish, things like bone broth, egg pudding, some make the cloud bread (egg breads) etc to use…some people make carnivore egg noodles, and all kinds of carnivore recipes out there, but for me in my path, I just whittled down more and more to the most basic meat/seafood I loved and ended up ditching so much as I ticked off time on plan.