Blood Levels

(Phil Gilbert) #1

I’ve been eating keto now for 4 weeks. Completed a 72 hour fast last week. Starting again this week. I’m 48 hours in and just got my testing equipment. My ketones are 1.2 but blood glucose is still 97. Isn’t that too high after fasting 48 hours? Not sure what this is telling me, especially with it being a single data point. Was hoping that someone may shed some light on these numbers.

(Michael ) #2

Not sure. You’re not having insulin response but probably creating sugar through gluconeogenisis sp maybe that’s a normal fasting blood glucose for you

(Phil Gilbert) #3

Would this mean I am/was pre-diabetic or almost pre-diabetic? From reading the stories of others, may I assume that my levels will adjust over time as my body works through all the crud that has been stored in my cells over the past decades?

(Michael ) #4

Hopefully not but I’m not qualified to answer. Maybe someone diabetic who checls glucose often can chime in

(Consensus is Politics) #5

I check mine many times a day. The early morning, when I first wake up, are always high. Usually around 120ish. Later in the day fasting or not, it drops to mid 80’s high 90’s.

I’m Type 2D, in my opinion, HIGHLY insulin resistant. I say that because even eating a little too much protein will throw my blood sugar into the 150’s easily.

I’m not so sure about an extended fast. I would guess it’s your liver just producing glucose for use. On my few extended fasts (more than 24 hours and as long as 36 hours) my blood sugar stayed pretty level at around 90ish. I was hoping to see it drop to 70ish, but it didn’t. If it’s from your liver, try doing some moderate exercise like a bike ride for an hour and retest. Or go for a brisk walk if possible.

(Michael ) #6

That actually sounds pretty similar so maybe it’s normal. I know that sugar spikes in morning and likewise my ketones are always lower. I forgot why. From an evolutionary perspective, maybe it’s the body saying, “get your ass up and find some food!”

(Donna K) #7

I was diagnosed pre-diabetic in June of this year. I test my sugars before every meal, and after every meal. When I fast, I try to test 4-5 times a day. My first two fasts my glucose was in the 90s and mid 80s for the first two days. On the third day my sugar dropped to the mid 60s, and then leveled back up into the 80s. My last fast my glucose was in the 70s. It seems that my fasting sugar is dropping with each fast.

(VLC.MD) #8

Pre-Diabetic.
What is that mean ?
Pre This Pre That. Pre Pre Pre.
What has the world come to ?

Pre-Diabetic.
The term sounds so bad to me.

Me: How are you ?
Patient: Fine.
Me: Yea … but are you ?
Patient: yea. I feel fine. What do you mean ?
Me: I think you suffer from pre-anxiety.
Patient: But I feel fine.
Me: But that is the nature of pre-anxiety. You feel fine now. And the pre-anxiety becomes anxiety. I think we need to treat your pre-anxiety with meds or you might just have full blow anxiety.

/end rant.

Sorry DonnaK this has nothing to do with you. My apologies.
I think it’s my mildish Pre-Dementia talking (which will be a thing I am sure).

(Donna K) #9

LOL, i agree. In my opinion I am a type 2 diabetic. I’ve seen too many variations on what is the cut off point for pre- diabetic and diabetic. My initial A1C was 6.9.My September A1C was 5.9 and I’ve got my fingers crossed that I’m a 5.2 or lower when I get my bloodwork done next week.

(VLC.MD) #10

With no drugs ?
Amazing work !

(Donna K) #11

No drugs. and Thank you!

(VLC.MD) #12

I just saw another A1c 6.9

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I’ll see this person Thursday.
When I suggest a low carb plan / no alcohol plan … I’ll get the usual lip service.

His Mom’s A1c

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(Consensus is Politics) #13

I’m currently pre-death. I wonder if I can go ahead and get my life insurance payout now?

#14

You cannot and should not base your judgment upon 1 reading. Get more reading across a few weeks, while your diet is as you formulate it. Plus, an HBA1C would be a good way to know your historic (over the last three months) average BG levels.

#15

sorry to break the Internets, but there’s no solid evidence Hippocrates said that (https://www.statnews.com/2017/08/07/food-medicine-hippocrates/)

Food is food. And lifestyle interventions alone can be powerful enough in multiple conditions (especially when we talk about conditions like T2D which are impacted by our diet and lifestyle). However, we should avoid or refrain from hyperbole, and stop promoting inaccurate claims.

(Consensus is Politics) #16

The article was mostly useless in my opinion. Very factless. Even the main point of this doctors rant, about Hippocrates being misquoted, failed to deliver in what manner the misquote took place. I check the link the doctor cited, and it to was mostly useless. I declare it as simple click bait. His argument was, at best, something akin to a grade school argument about sports. Mostly harmless.