I’m very interested in “biohacking” I believe ketosis itself is the main pillar in my temple of biohacking. Biohacker Bryan Johnson has recently been in the news and I believe plenty of his philosophy. Solid sleep patterns. Most food done in the AM. Lots of supplements. etc.
I’m curious who else pays attention to this guy, what you buy, what you don’t. I believe he’s making an error when it comes to sexuality and his lack of attention to fat. Although I’ll give him the nod that he’s probably always in ketosis and healthier than me.
I’m curious about anybody else’s view, critiquing, etc. Admin and mods, I’m sorry if I misplaced this topic or broke rules.
I’d say Bryan Johnson is one of my favorite lunatics. I have admired his transparency, so far it does not seem like he’s trying to sell me anything although heaven knows he’s taking enough stuff. What is his take on sexuality? Somehow he doesn’t look like he could care less about it, but of course looks are deceiving. I do not actually follow any of his advice or supplements as far as I know, it’s just too overwhelming for me and the vegan aspect isn’t for me. I don’t have a child I can use for blood transfusions, either. Still, he’s fascinating.
His philosophy is humans don’t even have to die. So I’m an epileptic, he’s got a fleet of doctors, so I have to type careful to not look stupid here. He does mirror lots of things that I do naturally, as I assume lots of keto ppl here may have gravitated towards these daily patterns. The vanity play is also something I find easy to critique. I think injections maybe involved w/ that as well. Sexuality has no place in his philosophy of not dyeing, the sex hormones’ of male mammals suppresses the immune system, or even has detrimental effects? (Inverse reaction in females) So his 30 doctors are lacking a pHD in evolutionary biology. Tisk Tisk.
He’s selling though, like 350$ for an hour conversation or something of that nature. I think it’s supplements pills too? Our daily patterns were just too similar to not mention it here. Hopefully it doesn’t sound like I’m taking a jab here, but it could make for a great convo piece here.
I hadn’t seen anything about him for a year or so, didn’t realize he had a commercial enterprise up and running. He made me think he was channeling the elves in Lord of the rings, he seemed so ethereal and calm and intelligent. (A nice change from all the shouting marketeers). And he was … Radiant. Literally. Otherworldly.
I liked the idea that he was making himself an N=1 with so much observation and assistance from others. It seemed like some honest science teasing out actual causality and effectiveness of various interventions might be possible, and he was making that data freely available to anyone who wanted it. I don’t begrudge him the selling angle, I just hope he continues to share the findings.
I believe you’ve got him a little wrong. He brags about having the night erections of a teenager. However, I don’t know if he is doing any TRT. He is not trying to suppress his T though.
If you are an epileptic, I don’t think his style of eating would be particularly beneficial for you. You would probably get the best benefit from either a low grade keto like I do in the winter or low carb with added MTCs several times a day to keep some ketones around. The higher ketones seem to be what suppresses epileptic seizures. So, things like goat yogurt in the morning… cook with virgin coconut oil or palm oil, MCT oil salad dressing on your salads, etc.
He seems to be somewhat into self… Maybe that’s why he got divorced, but there is a good side to his pointing out the evils of the SAD. I’m not a fan of his chosen marketing slogan…“Don’t die.” I’d rather live healthily and happily lol. I didn’t know he was selling his time so cheap…But, if anyone is interested in immulating him, all they need do is copy his web page with his routine, etc. I too take quite a few supplements. My dad had prostate cancer, and I take a few things to suppress T conversion into estrogen and DHT. During the winter I take 10,000 IUs of D, and year round I take at least 100 mcg of K2, a partial dose of a whole food multi, ALA, calamari, cod liver and krill oil, quercitin, NAC, ~1gr niacinamide(to boost NAD), ubiquinol, minerals at night, etc. HIs latest expensive gimic was to get follistatin gene therapy… If he turns into Arnold, maybe one day I will shell out the bucks…lol. Actually, there is a lady who beat him on the leader board doing a very simple routine. David Pascoe also beat him once also with a fairly simple routine. I’m into enjoying my food while optimizing my health, and Bryan is really just too anal about all this stuff for my taste, but I am into optimal health.
I’m an epileptic that believes ketosis is the bodies natural state. Fat adapted etc. It’s not unusual for me to buy a loin, rib, fillet etc and just survive of just that for days/weeks etc. I don’t need carbs/fiber at all!
I’m seeing what your seeing, what I may have failed to get across is that i feel like, us pro keto ppl end up gravitating towards the same daily habits. So I figured ppl here would have something to say.
He does some weird stuff, but he’s at the bottom of my list, he’s lost his own Rejuvination Olympics multiple times, one by a lady that spends like $2k a year on biohacks vs his $10M.
Dave Asprey (might as well follow the guy who literally invented the term biohacking), Ben Greenfield, Quantified Bob, then there’s the researcher and doc’s like Huberman, David Sinclair, Peter Attia (I’m 50/50 on him) etc.
Also make sure this place didn’t make you anti-pharma or that anything synthetic = bad.
He’s definitely not, he’s a Vegan, that’d be almost impossible. The overwhelming majority of the pills he pops daily is probably barely making up for his nutritional deficiencies. All us Biohackers are crazy pill poppers, but things that directly help us move towards a goal or fix a problem, you’re not supposed to start off in the (intentional) negative.
I find him interesting, but his lifestyle is way too strict for me. Besides the vegan thing, he wakes up every morning at 4:30am and goes to sleep every night at 8:30pm. He is also finished eating his meals before noon. He eats the same two vegan meals every day and varies a third. He’s not keto exactly, but he does the time-restricted eating and his vegan meals don’t contain grains. He also adds extra virgin olive oil to all his meals, so he isn’t anti-fat. He uses things like lentils, nuts, and hemp for his protein. And apparently his protocol does not require veganism, but instead is a personal choice. The documentary showed his son eating a version with meat.
My limited form of bio-hacking involves taking some Novos supplements, vitamins, fish oil, metformin, and tirzepatide, and occasionally doing rounds of a fasting mimicking diet.
Ah, got Ben mixed up with Rob (Robin) Greenfield. I was surprised he’d changed from a rabid crazy environmentalist to a rabid crazy biohacker! That’s very different. Never mind.
Hi. I started watching a documentary about him on Netflix , it’s pretty out there. The amount of supplements he takes is astonishing , it’s literally hundreds , I stopped watching it , but pretty sure he is not keto.
Interesting, I had no idea there was a competition.
Do you think people’s genes play a role? Obviously they do but I mean in terms of this competition, do people whose parents are centenarians have an advantage in this game?
I am familiar with methyl groups and their epigenetic influence on DNA. Without having done any research!!, I would think the answer should be yes, otherwise methyl groups are a nice red herring but not the true indicator. Wondering if any research has been done on comparing the methyl group aging of centenarians (or their children if both parents) with people who seem to be aging rapidly. For example, I know people in their mid 80s who walk miles, bike and play tennis three times a week at a competitive club level and are planning a bike tour of the Poconos. Then I know people in their early 80s who have trouble going to the grocery store
It appears my hero’s vegan diet has caught up to him. Autoimmune issues, he’s recently gotten into a smorgasbord of pharmaceuticals as well. I don’t agree w/ a lot of what he does, but it’s unfortunate as I totally agree with his logic that civaliation doesn’t have a good handle on human longevity. Give AIP a chance ppl !
I’m starting to believe anything done to the human body to the extreme is not healthy. Even being a professional athlete and in extremely good physical condition comes at a price. Unless one has nutrient deficiencies, popping megadoses of vitamins, minerals, and other supplements in quantities way outside of what nature provides while helpful in the short term for one reason or another is probably not healthy for the long term.
I just have one anecdotal story involving me and my family. I won’t go into how I figured it out, but I realized that taking B-vitamins was making me edgy and mean. I mentioned it to my daughter and her boyfriend because they liked drinking energy drinks. My daughter said when they stopped drinking drinks with added B-vitamins, they stopped bickering nearly as much. B-vitamins are touted as the wonder vitamins and are added to a variety of drinks. Supposedly, one pees out the excess as they are not fat soluble. Well, in my family, we discovered we can still overdose on them.
There’s evidence now that leaky gut contributes to autoimmune issues. I wonder if all those supplements (and the vegan diet) damaged his intestinal lining?
IMO the plants fight back. 90% of plants are toxic. Something’s gonna happen. I still do keto vegan; in June specifically when all the plants here are fruiting and everything is free.
I feel like weightlifters, younger than me, are dropping like flies. I’ve considered starting a seperate thread just for that phenomenon constantly showing up in the news. Especially fitness influencers.
@VirginiaEdie There is something bad about too much exercise. It’s easy to find studies where they look at the hearts of high-output exercisers, and many of them are very atherosclerotic. The theory I think makes the most sense is that there’s constant damage to your arteries, and if the repair >= damage, you’re good. If you’re exercising a ton and don’t recover enough, then damage > repair -> atherosclerosis. I think the same applies for smoke, smoking, viruses, stress, etc., where too much means damage > repair -> atherosclerosis.
I take B vitamins because I’m part MTHFR, meaning that my homocysteine is relatively high. I take methylated B vitamins (a problem for MTHFR is methylization) to attempt to lower homocysteine. But I can tell if I take too many - I don’t feel great. I haven’t found the perfect amount to take yet.
I think @Hippie might have the correct assumption – plants aren’t good for everyone, especially in high doses. And while I believe the biome does something, it’s hard to know what the effects are. Some can be healthy eating fiber and (some) plants, and some can be healthy eating zero fiber and no plants.
And I think people are different. I tend to do well with lower amounts of plants and – particularly – fiber. But others seem to be able to eat more plants and fiber. And I only found out about plants and fiber by eating a lot less and then realizing when I ate more what happened to me.
I was a pseudo-body builder when I was younger. Never took drugs. Got bigger, stronger, but nowhere near what people think of as a “body builder”. But it’s amazing how many of them died younger. Due to the drugs? Or something else?
