I think there are too many variables. I just got back from jogging 3.3 miles, and lost enough water that I got dizzy while standing. I MUST have more salt. Felt much better after drinking a ton of water and drinking olive brine.
Ben Bikman - reduce dietary salt too much and insulin rises
Shinita
#22
I use the same amount of salt on keto, carnivore and every other diet except maybe the differences between the food amounts. I typically eat less as I lower carbs so I suppose the salt may go down but not by much.
But I did notice that I am more fine with less salt on my meat as more time passes close to carnivore. The salt on my roasts dropped significantly and I tolerate salty food less and less. 1.5% salt is fine but it starts to get problematic above it. I have problems with certain cheeses, meat products due to that. And I donāt talk the very common 7+ % salt smoked pork here (I think 7% is legal but 10% happensā¦? whatever, itās WAY above my tolerance. even if I add much unsalted food to it, the salt interferes)ā¦ That level was serious even before but I bought those items and I hardly dare to do it now. Maybe for tiny slices with my big scrambled eggsā¦?
Bacon is way too salty. But I donāt really like it anyway so itās fine. And I can handle 1-2 crispy rashers (some of the salt leaves it with the lard) especially if I donāt eat it alone. Itās variety once in a blue moon and itās not bad, per se, just too expensive for me, too fatty and not really needed and processed too. I prefer fresh pork and sausages 
Okay, sausages are best made by myself as they arenāt too fatty, rich and salty that way but they are still neat when I just buy them. I just need to eat them with something else. And I like eating stuff all alone.
Maybe the carnivores who donāt use salt werenāt big salters on keto eitherā¦? I donāt understand what would make the huge difference and we know some carnivores need pretty much saltā¦
I am a bit curious what will happens when I go carnivore(-ish, I see zero point in doing it super strict in my case but I lose items quite quickly so it may happen naturally) longer termā¦ But it would be very troublesome to want no salt as I already have some important items I find a bit too salty. They arenāt my staples but still, they are needed for variety and joy.
And I already have problems with very eggy (my fav kind) desserts. I often feel them too salty. Indeed, eggs have lots of sodium naturally. I never salted the vast majority of desserts despite recipes always said itās oh so important because even a tiny bit ruined them for me but now even my yolks oversalt themā¦? Sigh. And itās probably more pronounced when I have my carni desserts as they donāt have sweeteners that could mask the salty flavor.
I am getting more sensitive anyway. Salt and sugar/sweetness alike. Sometimes I canāt enjoy a slice of cucumber because itās too sweetā¦ And on my carnivore-ish, summer has its raw vegs in moderation occasionally.
I handle fruits better as they should be sweet (and sour! thatās even more important, usually :)) but I have problems when my meat dishes or vegs (anything not dessert) are too sweet. But most fruits are too sweet too, yes.
Interestingly, I donāt need more salt even when I drink a ton of water. Or if I donāt eat for days (it never happens nowadays but it did a few times before). I am a human so if I had no sodium for 3 days while I would drink a ton of water and sweat outside a lot, I surely would need supplementing it but normally I donāt need it ever.
And itās perfectly fine for me to get all my sodium in one go too. I had plenty of OMAD days and I only have sodium from my food.
PaulL
(Bacon enough and time)
#23
I donāt have an explanation, but here are some thoughts: firstly, these long-term carnivores took quite some time to get where they are; they didnāt cut out salt overnight. Secondly, they are eating a lot more meat on carnivore than they would on keto, and may be getting more salt that way.
Thirdly, no one, to my knowledge, has studied people whoāve been on a ketogenic diet for as long as some of those long-term carnivores. It is not outside the realm of possibility that a long-term ketonian might also gradually come to need less added salt.
Lastly, I suppose we also canāt a priori rule out the possibility that the people who persist in a carnivore diet over the long haul are those whose bodies handle salt in a freakish manner.
The short answer: More research needs to be done on this.
robintemplin
(Robin)
#25
I have 1 year keto then one year carnivore. Needed extra salt on both. Otherwise, nightly muscle cramps.
PaulL
(Bacon enough and time)
#26
As the Dudesā second dogma runs: "Find out what works for you." (And stick with it. Not to mention that it might also change over time.)
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#27
When Brian Sanders (Peak Human podcast) went to Africa, he remarked that the Hazda (who eat mainly meat, though do eat some tubers and the like) did not use salt or water, even while hunting for hours. I saw Expedition Unknown, who visited the Hazda, and one of their people had to stop and go back to camp while being out with the Hazda on a hunt. Again, the crew all had water, but the Hazda did not use water or salt, at least while hunting.