Avocados not filling me up

#1

Avocados are a major fat source in my diet despite the bloating effects, since I don’t do dairy. But they seem to not fill me up strangely and perhaps even make me hungrier. Do you think it is the carb content? They do have some 12 carbs per avocado, even if it is a lot of fiber.
I think when I tried macadamia nuts I felt more fulfilled but I was a bit scared of them and didn’t eat much. They aren’t something Ive ever eaten before and I wasn’t and still am not sure how my body will take to them (I have anxiety with new foods and what physical or mental effect they will have).

#2

Avocados are just an occasional snack for me, but i do like them; I just don’t incorporate them into meals like others do.

I’m pretty sure they have nutritional benefits, but they are expensive, and hard to judge sometimes when is the optimal time of ripeness to eat them. They don’t make me hungrier though.

Maybe mix the avocado with something that does make you filled up?

#3

Of course some low-protein plant doesn’t satiate most of us, well you surely eat it with your protein, right?
I can imagine the carbs are a problem, they wouldn’t be to me as it contains too little for that but I never tried as I dislike avocado and it’s a luxury item to me anyway.

How much do you eat for one meal? And can you compare it to something else?

But there are things not being satiating and even being hunger inducing, it may be very individual too and we just can’t see the logic sometimes. Even zerocarb, protein rich things may have no satiation effect sometimes. Avocado has a way easier time.

There are so very many fat sources, why you can’t use something else, at least to test what happens when you swap the avocado for it? I personally wouldn’t need to try as I know that fat sources don’t satiate me unless they are very good protein sources as well (and even then, not necessarily). Who knows how YOUR body works? It’s crazy sometimes and you can only get figure it out by experimenting.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #4

Are you getting enough protein? There is evidence to suggest that we are not going to be satisfied when we are low on protein, no matter how much fat we eat.

(Bob M) #5

I am not good with avocados, or other high fat foods. Don’t cause satiety.

#6

Paul I upped the protein. I am eating 7.5 - 8 oz king salmon OMAD (though I dont know how much is skin, and if fish skin has any real protein). I eat about 2.5 oz snow crab as well. I tried upping the salmon and downing the snow crab due to mercury and the fact it has little fat, but I want to get the b12, iron and copper out of it so I still eat a little of it. The king salmon used to feel filling but it doesn’t seem to have that effect anymore.

#7

Mix it with mayonnaise, maybe a little grated cheddar cheese, maybe even a few nuts…that would be my advice.

(Bob M) #8

You could definitely try nuts, and macadamia nuts are particularly good. The “problem” with nuts for some (like me) is that eating them by themselves can lead to overeating. That’s what happens to me.

But I’ve been finding lately that if I add them to something, I don’t have the same issue.

I am unfortunately not familiar with what pescatarians can or cannot eat, so can’t really suggest anything else.

#9

Just buy a small prtion of nuts, that means you can’t overeat.

I do this with walnuts, and sometimes almonds and brazil nuts. Macademias are too expensive over here right now.

Yes, it’s more expensive than bulk buying (which I prefer), but I too would munch all night on them, so i limit my access to them.

(Bob M) #10

I buy macadamia nuts from Costco in a huge bag. Would eat the whole bag in one sitting if I could. Can’t really buy them anywhere else, as they are too expensive.

The other nuts, I don’t eat or eat very little of; too high in PUFAs for me.

#11

I know what you mean.

i buy pork scratchings off Amazon, but form UK.

They come big bags, but the taste…I could easily munch a bag in a night.
I’ve managed to discipline myself that I don’t though, and I can stretch them out.
Pluss i maybe only buy one bag a month, if i remember to. Yeah- it;s the salt and taste, and your body reminding you that it isn’t only carbs that release ‘reward’ hormones.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #12

That is about 58 g of protein, which is good if you weigh 58 kg/128 lbs. Depending on your lean mass, you could probably do with more protein.

(Allie) #13

If they bloat you that’s your body telling you it doesn’t want them… intolerances wreak havoc, you should be paying attention to your body.

#14

10oz seafood? That’s not so much protein. I personally need twice as much just to ensure I won’t jump the fridge after midnight, being hungry (unless I overeat fat with the right items)… Theoretically I don’t need nearly that much but it just doesn’t work below.
Okay, it’s just me but I definitely would try a bit more protein.

Nuts and other oily seeds may help something, I know I had 150g of them per day on vegetarian low-carb/keto (I’ve read it’s way too much but never a reason for it, there just wasn’t enough info and my body was fine with it) - but I experienced and I have read the same about many others people that nuts aren’t particularly satiating. It depends, probably, it worked for me along with other food while my energy need was a bit higher… It was worst eaten alone, it just didn’t give me satiation that way. Along with some food better at satiating me? That is different but too much and it still blows up my calories (unless I use leanish protein where I can afford more non-satiating food).
But most people don’t need to eat near perfectly to avoid overeating so nuts may be more okay. Or some nuts. We should stay away from the ones where we just can’t stop at the right time.

#15

No rule saying fat fills you, I can eat fat until I’m puking it back up, it’s not going to fill me up. Protein does that, fat just helps a little.

(Allie) #16

Protein for me too, and carbs when I have them. I can eat a high carb meal and not be hungry for the next 12 hours, maybe puts me in the minority here.

#17

Protein and calories (so, fat) for me…

It’s easily 23 hours for me if it’s proper sized (2000 kcal), I am sleeping at 12 hours (nothing ever kept me satiated beyond 12 hours if I stayed awake) and surely there are other conditions but I hardly can avoid high protein and high fat (in grams. in percentage, fat is my main fuel), being me. Especially not when the carbs are high too.
It doesn’t change the fact that carbs make me hungrier. It’s just different when the meal is around my TDEE and there are plenty of fat and protein. Or at least protein I suppose, I had a HCLF day (more like fatphobic, I did my best to keep it almost zero) out of curiosity once.But considering how bad my food was, maybe lack of hunger was self-defence, I am prone to that.

Mostly carbs meals are both impossible and ineffective to me, my SO may get long term satiation from them though (not 12 hours but 8 while doing physical work). Anyway, I know that’s a thing for some people, no matter how odd that is to me. (I even heard about people who couldn’t get satiated without a lot of fruit in their diet. It makes exactly zero sense to me. My SO needs some protein, much fat and much carbs. But a single meal is just fine at 90% carbs. Insane.)

And I start to get a hunch that these things may change. I usually don’t track on my off days but it seems I get satiated way easier even there, even if I eat much carbs. At least sometimes but it’s not all the time even on extreme low-carb. It probably deteriorates if I keep at it but nothing can keep me on higher-carb for long. It’s like I keep most benefits when I stray for a bit. Nice.

Satiation is one of my fav topics and it’s wonderfully individual and complex. There are some general tips (protein usually helps and simple sugars probably do the opposite) but that’s about it. It’s amazing how different we are.
So if something doesn’t work (like chicken for me), we should accept and act accordingly.
But I only say it doesn’t work if I tryly eat a huge amount without the expected effect. Of course I almost always stay hungry after 10 eggs as that is a small meal (eggs are very satiating to me though not the best. the second best). But if 1kg nicely fatty protein does about nothing, well, that kind of food isn’t my ally.

I try to be scarce now.

#18

Shinita if you dont mind me asking, what is your height and an estimate of what is a healthy body weight for you? I know I shouldn’t compare myself to others but I would like to know if there is somebody out there around my same LBM and height that eats more protein than 60g. I look at my mom and she does not eat hardly anywhere as much protein as me. She will eat a hotdog for lunch, bratwurst for dinner and glass of milk at night. Though she does eat cheese and a lot of carbs.
I am 5’3, small boned and 60 lbs and my healthy weight should be around 100 lbs. I’m obviously looking to gain weight and muscle. Nuts are hard to stop eating for me, I don’t like getting out of control and feeling sick from a food. it’s like they have to be on a salad with my meal, not eaten by themselves, though I dont know that macadamias go on a salad very well but I like that they aren’t all omega 6. I would like to have a set amount of food that agrees with me and helps me gain weight and muscle.

#19

5’4"/163cm and I probably would be okay at 56kg (123lbs)? It’s just a guess, I never ever had that weight in my adult life. After I passed 2 years old, I always was a bit or more chubby.
I hardly will gain much muscle but hopefully some will come. It changes my “ideal” weight. I just want to look okay, the actual number is irrelevant. But probably 56 is nice. Or 54. Who knows? I was 62 some time after fat adaptation, my belly was still very fatty as always. So that’s not near okay yet. But 50 is super low I suppose, I want more muscles than that, I am not a fragile or narrow hipped one either… We will see.

I ate about 230g protein today, by the way. I was hungry, my food was nice and my eating window exceptionally big. Not my record but close. But I am close to carnivore now (not like I couldn’t do it without meat). I am a tad shaken now, my normal days aren’t like this. Oh well, it happens sometimes.

One can get a “lot” of protein from carbs. My SO gets a significant amount from his grains alone. So it’s not just the meat, eggs, dairy… Of course plant carbs aren’t complete alone but eaten the right combos, it still matters. Especially when one eats bigger amounts or more protein rich plants.

#20

3 down now…only after 20 minutes in.

I feel bad for our girls now, they tried so hard to get there, now they’re being slaughtered.

FK it. Norn Iron!

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