Artificial Sweeteners kicking me out of Ketosis?

(Brady) #1

I am not testing for Ketones, but may start. My real question is how bad is artificial sweeteners when trying to get into Ketosis. I drink crystal light energy and wondering if this is halting or slowing myself down from entering Ketosis. I appreciate any help.

(Robert C) #2

I have not heard that they especially bad for ketosis but, for artificial sweeteners, I think it will be a very individual thing - you might need to test for ketones even if someone elseā€™s n=1 says otherwise.

They do two other bad things for health / ketogenic diet:

  • They perpetuate sweet in your life - the faster this desire dies off the better, imagine walking into a bakery or past a Mrs. Fields and not feeling any pull to try anything.
  • They can hurt your gut microbiome. This means the can effect how well you deal with foods generally and so, satiety and digestion become more variable factors in your life (making keto more difficult as it becomes more ā€œwhat worked yesterday does not work todayā€.

Think of what you are really doing - ingesting chemicals made in a lab mixed with water (which is much more expensive than just the water).

(mole person) #3

There is also a fair bit of evidence that they have a long-term effect on glucose uptake at the cellular level. This would have no effects on ketone or blood glucose levels and so any sort of testing that we can do at home would show nothing.

(Robert C) #4

But, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

(Carl Keller) #5

Typically things that end in the suffix ā€˜oseā€™ are probably not a good idea. The same goes for aspartame since it gets a lot of negative press. Both aspartame and sucralose are used to sweeten crystal lite.

Hereā€™s an article that talks about those sweeteners and more.

(mole person) #6

Bad, sorry. It leads to an increase in cellular glucose uptake.

#7

Results when it comes to that stuff are all across the map. The only artificial sweetener Iā€™ve found affects me in a way I notice is Ace-K, and even then only when I take in a lot of it. Iā€™ll start heading towards a food (drink) coma if I drink a couple drinks with it in there. Iā€™ve also caught the blood sugar drop multiple times. Different people have a HUGE variance it how they affect us. Stevia has never caused anything for me, Splenda and Aspartame also donā€™t seem to do anything, at one point I was convinced Aspartame was screwing with me but I couldnā€™t replicate anything when I tried. I try to avoid Ace-K when possible, but the others I just limit.

#8

Iā€™ve personally found no problems with aspartame, sucralose, stevia, or erythritol that I can detect when I consume them. But I also donā€™t consume them anywhere near approaching the grams I used to consume sugar, so Iā€™m not worried about them.

Maltitol tho.

(Lonnie Hedley) #9

:poop::sweat_drops::poop::sweat_drops::poop::sweat_drops::poop::sweat_drops:

#10

Splenda and erithyrol (sp?) seem to not affect me, except that Splenda MIGHT make me a little hungrier during fasting.

(Allie) #11

You wonā€™t know unless you test as they affect people in different ways.

(Eric - The patient needs to be patient!) #12

Dr Fung says in the obesity code, there is research that many of them produce or stimulate the production of Insulin. This might show up as a drop in BG at home. Insulin is the signalling metabolite that tells the body to store fat (and many other functions).

Iā€™m giving up their use.