I posted a study showing that the ketogenic diet may cause arterial stiffness in humans. Now I have found one that shows it does it to rats too. Odd to work in the reverse order but I found this one after the first. Someone please debunk these and convince me, using studies, that the ketogenic diet is healthy and will not cause any health problems.
Arteriosclerosis according to Harvard study on rats
PaulL
(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?)
#2
Well, one problem with this study is that it looked at a low-carbohydrate, high-protein diet, instead of a low-carb, high-fat diet. We know that excessive protein can cause health problems, quite apart from gluconeogenesis.
Another problem is that, according to the article, the researcher was trying to prove a point rather than to answer a question. How objective can you be, when you go into the study already knowing what you want the outcome to be. That’s called “confirmation bias.”
I only skimmed the article, so there may be other criticisms, this is just of the top of my head.
Fry
#3
Thank you. Do you know of any studies that counter this one, and the other (linked below)? Ones that demonstrate that keto does not cause arterial stiffening?
Dread1840
(Chris)
#4
Those would require funding from someone who isn’t trying to prove keto is unhealthy and as such, biased in how the data is presented.
And I have a comment about “high protein”. It’s only dangerous in the absence of fat, for 90% of people. Fat is hugely important.
KetoCowboy
(KetoCowboy)
#5
Sometimes it’s less important to know the truth than it is to know who’s lying to you.
I respond to this garbage the same way I respond to arguments from clowns like Dr. Greger. If you pay close attention to the work of Dr. Greger, you can see the deliberate & systematic intellectual fraud behind his claim that fat (rather than sugar) drives diabetes.
When you see the data manipulation in action, you shouldn’t think, "How can I find a study to disprove what this guy is saying?’ Instead, you only need to ask yourself, “Why am I listening to this quack?”
For me, the announcement of confirmation bias in this study doesn’t make me want to disprove it any more than I care to disprove any of Greger’s lies. That would be like hearing Dr. McDougall claim that parachutes don’t really help people who have fallen out of planes and then seeking a study to prove him wrong. I don’t need to engage such claims at all–since they’re based on nothing but a preconceived agenda.