Anyone watch “Diet Fiction”?

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #26

No doubt cooking makes some plant materials more easily metabolized into glucose.

None-the-less the plant material most widely and readily available during the Pleistocene was predominantly cellulose, which no amount of cooking/boiling is going to make digestible.

From this source:

Humans are known for sporting big brains. On average, the size of primates’ brains is nearly double what is expected for mammals of the same body size. Across nearly seven million years, the human brain has tripled in size, with most of this growth occurring in the past two million years.
…With some evolutionary irony, the past 10,000 years of human existence actually shrank our brains. Limited nutrition in agricultural populations may have been an important driver of this trend. Industrial societies in the past 100 years, however, have seen brain size rebound, as childhood nutrition increased and disease declined.

All those selectively bred and cultivated carbs, cooked or otherwise, didn’t do much for our brains. And we know they did a lot to our metabolic health. Again, where is the ‘good carb’?

(Bunny) #27

When I see “millions of years” and the word “evolutionary” hence “evolving” they lose me, first where is the proof, you have to be able to prove that before you can make far reaching theories and hypothetical statements so the rest of what is being said means nothing?

It is the intellectuals way of brain washing the reader into believing his or her views without any proof, would rather watch cartoons than read such fairytales, so without true science as your base how can you draw any conclusions from somebody making things up or believe any of the other content they are writing about!

At least Fairytales actually have some truth to them?

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #28

@atomicspacebunny as you pointed out with a quote from Attila, there is no ultimate ‘proof’ in science. There are better and better approximations to the point where any additional data simply flesh out the knowledge more fully. There is overwhelming evidence for the evolution of human beings over the course of more than 10 million years. There is zero evidence that something else happened. Did you simply glaze over my previous post:

‘Special creation’ is a specifically Christian belief looking desperately for a sciency pretense. Even the Roman Catholic Church long ago accepted evolutionary theory as a valid explanation for the development of life on this planet.

(bulkbiker) #29

Try that?

(Bunny) #30

That is quite the contrary I could show you overwhelming cross validated mathematical evidence that the earth itself is only a few thousand years old, so where are they getting these millions of solar years?

What your calling “zero evidence” is the exact opposite? There is zero evidence for what your trying to convince yourself that there is evidence for?

The human brain has always been and always will be the same size we just figured out a way to over supply it with carbohydrates!

(bulkbiker) #31

Are you trying to earn the site troll badge?
Or have you recently become an evangelical?

(Edith) #32

I am not a moderator here, but it seems that now that the discussion has changed from the original post into a discussion about belief versus science, nothing else is going to be accomplished by this discussion.

(Bunny) #33

Has nothing to do with religion just pure science, draw from it what you will whether it be religion or whatever?

(Bunny) #34

We are discussing science of human nutrition not religion let’s be clear on that!

Just need to be clear on having proof when we make baseless statements that have nothing to do with science?

(Edith) #35

Well, when you brought in Methusaleh (sp?) a while back, that would be religion.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #36

Please present it.

(Bunny) #37

Documented history within a religious text does not have anything to do with worship, there are text outside your classical religious text that also confirm the existence of such people!

(Bunny) #38

I could but that is not the point of the discussion (astro physics, geology and plate teutonics) we just need to be aware when one inserts fiction into the history of human physiology and biology without any proof or facts?

So just trying to stay on topic!

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #39

I thought as much. And I agree with @VirginiaEdie here.

As for inserting fiction into the history of human physiology and biology without proof or fact, you are the essence.

(Bunny) #40

I could give that a scathing review (op-ed) but again just trying stay on topic?

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #41

@admins I agree with both @VirginiaEdie and @atomicspacebunny that this discussion is going off topic. So if it’s doable without too much effort, would someone please start a new topic and move the comments that appear to have gone off topic to that? I can start a new topic, but I don’t know if or how to move existing comments to it. Thanks.

(BuckRimfire) #42

Also, what about the 100 year history of a strict (fairly low protein) ketogenic diet to treat epilepsy, which remains the standard of care to this day for patients who don’t do well on anti-convulsive drugs? Thousands of people have followed that diet long-term under the supervision of medical professionals. How did/do those people do relative to other epileptics? What do their doctors think about their general health?

Let me guess: crickets.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #43

I think you’re just trying to avoid a discussion of a scientific critique of young earth creationism, which is religion masquerading as pseudo-science. However, I agree that the discussion does not belong here.

(Bunny) #44

One thing you will not find me doing and that is “avoiding a discussion” (you don’t no how bad I want to dig into this topic and blow your mind) because I have done a lot of research on this very topic and that is my actual interest and hobby since I was a child no bias or pressure from either end of the spectrum whether be creationism, evolutionary theories or hypotheticals, I was once like you believing things I thought were true and when I researched it deep enough there is truth at both ends of those spectrums!

(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) closed #45