Angus August Carnivore

robintemplin · 2022-08-29 16:26:03 UTC

Glad you are okay and realize what happened. I hadn’t thought about how alcohol would impact a ZC person differently. Good warning!

Shinita · 2022-08-29 17:15:02 UTC

I tracked my Saturday, oh it wasn’t that bad as I thought, almost all my carbs came from fruits and potatoes. Still high-carb but barely. 2800 kcal and 55% fat. On my worst high-carb times I could go down to 45% but it was extreme and rare (and involved eating carbs with carbs and I don’t know many dishes like that I ever was willing to eat. I ate carbs with fat. I eat protein with fat. I eat everything with fat. Except fat, I eat fat with protein. That’s why I eat fatty protein on carni and nothing else. I can’t eat one without the other).

I am still perfectly satiated though I had a snack while Alvaro had dinner. An eggy coffee
It’s so odd I kept this very easy satiation I got last week during my carby weekend… But I think it happened before.
I kind of wanna forget about my keto plan for the next 2 days now. I can wait 1-2 months. I probably just continue carni But I will taste my tiny new tomatoes, the true carni starts on the 1st and we will see how long I will last! I drop coffee too. I keep tea, I need something but will try not to in the beginning, I will have carbonated water again, yay. I can’t just drink tap water (and egg milk in my eating window).

About 900 kcal until now (84g protein). It’s 7pm. We will see.

Shinita · 2022-08-29 21:37:57 UTC

I tried to eat at 8pm, it was quite successful, I ate more meat than for lunch…

I was simple today. 4 eggs, 786g pork chuck (1.75 pounds) and 5g butter.
Guesstimation says a bit below 1800 kcal, 120g fat, 2g carbs, 164g protein. 62% fat.
Food weight was 685g, I didn’t count the water in my eggy coffees.
Cost is about $4.29 (cooking included).

Is there any interesting other info I could play with? it’s so very simple with basically 2 items… I won’t do this all the time.

I could eat more, sure, I almost never get a stop sign when I eat late but I really got satiated so I am fine.

Oh timing, I forgot. I consider it kind of TMAD (the most common one in my life, lunch+dinner) even though I had an eggy coffee in-between. Unusually long time between my meals, 5 hours! 6 hour eating window, it doesn’t take much time to eat some pork and 1-2-3 eggs.

Tomorrow is supposed to be similar since I dropped my non-carni keto idea. I am too lazy to make something else when I am fine with what I have. If I manage to miss soup, I can always have a slightly off day but meat soup isn’t bad either, I just want to make it differently now.

Oh, guys, I forgot to ask. I have a tiny piece of beef leg. It was on sale, I couldn’t leave it. I had beef leg several times but it has bone in the middle! How one cook this best? It’s really small, just a slice, basically, a thick one but it can be maybe a pound?

Our mouflon (a kind of sheep) is similarly tiny but at least that is full meat. We wondered today about how to make most of this little thing… Alvaro proposed goulash (the non-beef one, it’s still legit and traditional) but it must be in October then as it’s carby. I said stew, still not carnivore but better than putting a bunch of carrots and potatoes into it, the onion and paprika is the same. And I can make egg dumplings/crumbles (scrambled eggs torn apart while cooking. I used to put something into it on keto but it’s eggs, it’s fine anyway…).
It’s very flavorful so it can get away with diluting it with sometimes to make it more…

JJFiddle · 2022-08-30 00:57:17 UTC

I get a cheap cut called beef shank, I assume that’s leg? It’s pretty tough, I slow cook or sous vide and it tenderizes it nicely. You could slow cook in the oven failing an appliance - 200 degrees (80ish C?) for a long time, maybe 6 hours, with some water and butter in the pan and closed with tinfoil or a lid to keep it moist. I’m such an appliance addict, but I think this would work.

JJFiddle · 2022-08-30 01:06:11 UTC

Sleepy day, obvious reasons. I think my zc balance was thrown off yesterday and then I barely slept lastnight, so today I would sit down and fall asleep. I had the boiled egg about 11 and then again about 7 and they feel rough on my stomach. I think I’ll just have to tough this one out til I get my zc powers back
Lastnight I threw a chicken in the sous vide box and took it out at 8 this morning to ice it. These are so easy now, cooking with no salt or seasonings, because I don’t even unwrap the plastic from the shrinkwrapped chicken, just throw the whole thing in the water and switch it on with my phone and forget it. At lunchtime I pulled off the dark quarters for me and sliced some breast for him and his got heated, mine didn’t need it. Did his sides in advance so we were ready to go at 12:30. Yummy.
Some students. Some kitchen catch-up. Some serious napping.
Nothing other than that. Easy day. Early bedtime.

Fangs · 2022-08-30 08:30:28 UTC

oh sorry, no, no, that was just a general statement remard kinda, not putting that right at you I was just meaning it is interesting how what we do intake from just our meal times how one’s blood sugar do their own thing kinda. just a comment cause so many love to track them too.

@Shinita, so true. recipes can take an insane amt of time and like you said, so many variations on them too. I was like you, I had to have certain things even if they took cook time, but like you most of the old foods ‘aren’t important now’ just like you said

Thanks for the info on what a higher carb day intake is for you. Gives me a guideline to know how someone is rollin’ along when they mention eating higher or lower carb…like mentioned, carb days can vary so much from one to another.

@JJFiddle, you slow down you over achiever One sausage ain’t gonna hold ya long if you go full tilt…but so true on some booze. I tell ya how it effects one on carnivore is wild for most of us. I had a few issues with it to ‘adjust’ thru HOW to learn to drink again on zc, lol. Glad you didn’t get real hurt! Big strong men to the rescue to grab ya a bit to break that slam! But like you I changed how I drink cause on this lifestyle you have to or not survive almost HA

On carbs one can soak up that booze and stay hydrated more easily, on zc, alcohol hits the system dead on…hard too…ask me how I know A few times I got very sicky icky and I had to learn control in this situation also but I am getting alot older now and don’t mind I had to change out the drinking time in life…I am kinda over those let’s party days but yea, zc and booze is a whole new world off all carbs!

Also I remember about a little over a year of zc…I had to eat. It was a strange time. Like if I didn’t not eat something kinda big more toward early morning I started getting very shaky. that woozey feeling. Kinda also a very anxiety type feeling of dread and then the physical of feeling ‘so off’ and I got hit when driving to the beach on vacay. In car and started to just shake up, waves of light headed thru me, kinda hit panicky feeling mode and told hubby to find ANY food joint and pull over, I had to immediately eat. I got a few burgers into me and I was a whole new person the minute I ate…so if I do drink booze now I make sure I also eat food with it very close together. I think we change SO much on this lifestyle somethings we have to ‘work thru’ the body changes and how stuff that effects us. like some booze or not eating enough when we truly require food.

ok enough on that

-----------------today tummy feels alot better. hmm? no idea but I got my eyes on a smaller NY Strip steak and that will be first attack of the day. Later I got country pork ribs to cook up and eat.

Karen18 · 2022-08-30 08:57:12 UTC

After brunch yesterday ate this:

Promptly followed by the remaining 5 rashers of bacon left in pack.
And this

And had two of these anchovies and promptly threw the rest away in the bin, far too salty and definitely the sort you get on top of a p***a … nothing like the super tasty ones I get in the chilled aisle in lidl.

now what to do with the 2nd tin in the cupboard … now who makes p***as

JJFiddle · 2022-08-30 10:13:14 UTC

@Fangs Thank you. I was waiting for your post on that and grateful for it. Yes, no food and exhaustion had to have a lot to do with it and it was JUST balance, all my faculties were intact, I was playing great! all those Irish jigs at the speed of light and slow ballads that made the old men cry~ no slurred speech, nothing, just complete lack of balance when I tried to walk. Nervous system gave out it seemed. So odd and a completely carnivore event! Like you said. But I think I’m tee totalling for a bit now. No weight loss in months and I’m wondering if it is JUST alcohol causing that. I’m certainly NOT overeating in any sense of the word.’

@Karen18 Thinking of you and working on your insomnia troubles. It keeps coming down to your birdlike athletic metabolism and I’m wodering if 8 hours straight sleep is only available to you when you’re exhausted to smithereens, lol. I keep thinking of an article I read several years ago by Dr. Mercola regarding sleep, guilt, history. He cited South American Indians who would sleep 4 hours, get up and have a meal and chat for a couple hours, then all go back to sleep. Said not to worry, it’s not necessarily natural to sleep like the dead for a third of the day all at once. And especially as we erm, hit the downhill side of the hill shall we say? We tend to wake early but nap after lunch. It’s good for us cause when we work it’s during the evening hours and that kick of sleep bounces us back into vitality for the night ahead. …toward retirement you lmight just naturally flow into your own sleep schedule. At least, to stop fretting over your sleep and just drop when ya must!

No drinky tonight but a nice breeay cool night out on the dark deck with stars, solving the problems of the world, Now he mostly reads his kindle and I read and type on the forum, or read my novel too. Serene. Occastional chat. My brother called so we talked, he is better, they’re thinking they’ll get married in January as her medical is running out. Pushy me! But he has to consider all the years she’s been so dedicated to him, especially this past year with all this neck business. She deserves his care and protection. I fixed a cheeseburger while we chatted and that completed the day for me! Now I’m sitting here in the dark typing, awake since 4 so no need to lie there with my eyes open talking to myself, LOL! There will be a nap later!

Shinita · 2022-08-30 10:29:54 UTC

Thanks, I will try that! It’s 93C, apparently, great, I have a sign(?) at 90C. And then nothing so I don’t even know the temperature of its lowest settings, once I put some water into the oven and tried to figure it out… And forgot the result, oh well, it’s not like I need that, I have a dehydrator anyway. Or what is that called. From my raw vegan phase (just made some raw vegan dishes, of course someone like me wouldn’t last a day on that diet, I would be hungry and miss the food. but it was fun).

Today I eat my last 2 pickled eggs and throw out the pickle juices. I tried not to but since I couldn’t find my beloved vinegar anywhere, the quality went down. I will try to find wine vinegar (without the 32% sugar, thank you, I am not even sure Alvaro will be able to use it up but maybe, he likes beetroot and that’s already super sweet) next time in the city.
Sigh. I never hated sugar this much in my life. Somehow my tolerance went down in a sudden jump again.
But it’s super easy to avoid it so all is well
My meat and eggs have little, I don’t even feel that amount. And I talked about added sugar anyway, somehow it feels more vile? Or because I want my vinegar not sweet at all? I am way more sensitive if the food is savory and NO sweetness is allowed beyond some very subtle natural things as nearly everything is sweet a bit. I can handle the sweetness in cream just fine. The lactose-free milk was overkill…

Oh sorry, I talked about carbs again but I tasted my pickle juice before and it wasn’t nice and now it’s on my mind.

Let’s talk about salt then! I didn’t include that info yesterday, not like I am sure about it. I probably had around 2g salt yesterday.
I used 1g per 800g for my roast this time. It may or may not be enough, hard to tell as much salt goes into the stuff in the bottom (how do you call that? it’s mostly lard but not only and it didn’t get a jelly this time either. it’s just some super salty super porky rich flavorful paste, the non-fat part)… I ate them together but no idea if I used more than the share of my piece of meat at the time (same with the fat but tracking fatty meat is already very inaccurate so I don’t care much).
I used 1g for 450g meat before when roasting. I think fried meat needs a bit more…? I will test that later.
And my BBQ marinade spice mix that I just use on top of things (usually eggs), I can’t imagine why should I do anything with my meat but frying or roasting with some salt… Well that is apparently for 800g pork or chicken. The WHOLE packet. It’s not a big packet but I will use it for a year It’s super flavorful and spicy, a little goes a long way and I rarely feel the need for spice but it’s really taste so I use whenever I can. But a super tiny amount per time. It’s salty too. A packet contains 10g salt. For 800g pork, that would be horrible for me… But I bought smoked salted pork from the pig farm shop and that’s at least 7% salt I think (it was quite salty back then and I don’t dare to buy again unless I use it like bacon, a little meat for multiple eggs). 7% is the legal maximum I think but it’s caked in salt… 10-11% salt in ham happened in this country before… When I used that and chicken liver for my only meat sources on my early carnivore, I managed to get salt burn and salt aversion And I eat very little meat then. But still way too much sodium.
I know that I tolerate about 1.5% salt, the saltier items need some unsalted eggs with them but I don’t like to go much higher.
But this 1.5% is for some rich solid food and not for all. It varies wildly.
And IDK how but the same kind of food with the same sodium content (allegedly. I may not believe everything I read on labels) manages to show a different level of saltiness. Both my current and previous sour cream has 0.1% salt. The previous one is great, not salty and tasty as sour cream should be. I seriously miss salt from the new one. I only need a tiny amount but I feel even that isn’t there. Odd. I never met such a sour cream. Maybe something else interferes with it. Like it’s known that more spice lowers the need for salt. But it’s just sour cream, simple and somewhat neutral…

Now I am really curious about booze on ZC… I always planned to try drinking while in ketosis and well-fasted but well, if I am well-fasted, I either don’t consume anything but drinks without calories or I go for food. I never even liked anything sweet when hungry, hunger requires proper food, fat, protein and savory, maybe sour. Never something sweet. I had my childhood craziness when I made a meal from the most horribly carby stuff sometimes but my first meal always was savory. So it’s odd to me when hungry people go for some sweet bar… I had a huge sweet tooth (I probably don’t have that anymore… I don’t feel the need but I think I still like sweets and they are easier to eat sometimes - but I am not sure I need that help. I used to when I was bored of my normal carni food but I felt starving and could eat sweet pancakes. since meat doesn’t bore me anymore, I dropped pancakes as the savory ones are not that fun and my only carni dessert pancake requires mascarpone and I rarely have that) and depended on .sweets on keto very much… But I still went for proper food (whatever that meant to me then) and nothing sweet when hungry. There were exceptions but only if I had no good options.

Oh I went off again. So I don’t drink booze before eating. So my experiment never happened. Maybe a well-fasted state would balance out the tiny amount… Maybe it’s not fair to dump toxins on my body when it wants food, though… My health-consciousness and a slight paranoia involving protein keep me from certain experiments… By the way, I don’t need the slight paranoia, I am almost unable to eat below 120g protein a day… I still get worried if I go way below just for one day, it’s stupid but I can’t help it. I quit my fat fast after 1.5 days because I saw my tiny muscles breaking down in my mind’s eye… I know very well it wouldn’t happen like that but still, I like to have my protein. If I don’t get it, I probably still will get it, maybe after midnight and overeating in the process. Not fun. I even feel some heaviness in my belly the next day now even with carni food. And if I reach complete satiation, I probably will feel too full the next day. So no, I need to make sure I get my protein during the day. And the easy and longer satiation on carnivore tries to go against this… Maybe I will need leaner protein soon.

Longer satiation… The 5 hours yesterday was a good example of it. And it wasn’t the first time. I only have it on carnivore. 3 hour between meals was the norm I almost never strayed from… At least on low-carb, I surely had way longer times on high-carb where my meals were big so my satiation lasted longer. But on low-carb, it was always about 3 hours. So I had 3MAD with IF 16/8 and 2MAD with IF 19/5 (I needed significant time for my meals too, the 3 hours were the fasted periods). It was so predictable!
And then came my carni times and my pretty fixed 3 hours became anything between 1 and 6 hours. But it’s usually 3-4 on my normal meals. It’s easily 1 when I have 5 meals (and still fit into 8 hours).

Today I am less satiated than normal but it may be the pickle juice I tasted, my poor insides… It wasn’t extremely strong but I feel like eating 12 sponge cakes to soak up the bad thing in me. I have none yet.
I never was particularly good with drinking overly vinegar-y liquids alone… But I did it sometimes because of course I did it. I LOVE vinegar and sour things but I need food with it (what a surprise, I show signs of having a somewhat normal human body…).
I could eat mustard all alone though. Some nice, not too strong one. Yum. I try to use less mustard too, in September I mean. It suits sausages and eggs but still. I have 10g mustard in my tracking all the time so I don’t need to think about it ever (sometimes I change it to 20g when I have a very mustard-y day)… I should stop. Mustard is for occasional, not almost everyday use. And I actually use is less now…

I use the dish names very widely, I could make one
But I probably just would put a little piece into some otherwise unsalted big scrambled eggs…

Fangs · 2022-08-30 11:10:18 UTC

well yea, off any alcohol you do give your body that tiny more bit ‘of health’ and it will give up the lbs sooner than later also but it is just time on plan for your body to reset. and it will!

I started and did so well and then I hit ‘spurts’ of weirdo times that I just lived thru. Like around month 7-8 I was hit with such exhaustion for 2 weeks I thought I was never gonna move again LOL It was devastating in that I felt I had like narcalepsy or something literally, I could not keep my eyes open. I slept every minute of every day I could during that time and had to force myself to work or even move so it was rough and woke up one morning, boom, full of energy and a whole new me.

and then I got the ‘dizzy, woozy’ like you, off balance and sicky icky type situation and when one goes from ‘sitting down to standing up’ you throw your blood pressure out of whack and that is a bad thing, alot of people can fall then. alot of times it is dehyrdration or lack of food.

but I also hit into year 1 where I had like a month where strange feelings hit me, like off balance, woozey, and I knew it was lack of food and salt for me. Cause I ‘hit that time’ when my appetite went very low…just not hungry so I didn’t eat and learned real fast, yea I can do it now fine, but back then I had to eat ‘more regular’ then go longer cause the body was still changing inside ya know…so much internal repair and hormones re-balancing and we don’t see that, but we feel it at some points.

nice thing was when I got hit with weirdo issues, I hit the zc forum and would ask…hey, what happened to me? and everyone would chime in and say they had that too and experienced but got over it and they saved me in not jumping ship on the plan. cause some things can take one down a bit and can get scary…so no more one sausage days for you HA you start to eat well.

plus when I started eating more I started losing weight again yup, for alot of us we hit such a lower type appetite that we don’t realize at all we aren’t giving the body enough to let loos some lbs. So we eat more and boom, weight drops in spurts again.

most will see zc do weight loss in spurts longer on plan. It is kinda like a tick list

body has to heal internally…reset…who KNOWS how long for each of us on that one.
body will dump water weight going off carbs so that helps us know we are in the right direction but see 1 again.
we change and get good benefits as we continue or we start to get a tad wonky with eating less so we have to have time on plan to ‘find our set point’ on best eating for us. I was 6 meals a day, 1 meal, no meals, 2 meals and then I was grazing all day long til I finally hit on 2 meals per day. Now that is my set point for survival and best feeling good I can get.
weight now drops in spurts and can take months to happen. but I lose say, 4-5 lbs and think WOWZA but that mighta taken 7 months to lose, but all the time my body composition is leaner meaner looking and body is tightening up without weight loss…which is good…and then it is maybe I ate a few bites of crap too many times in that 7 mos. so I didn’t lose a little those months, but eventually the body gives up some lbs. Key being in those 7 mos. I ate damn good! Feel great! Feel empowered and not stressed about dieting. If I have to wait longer for lbs off scale then so be it. But never worry, you will become a smaller person, just don’t bank it on lbs lost on the scale ever too which I know you know.

remember too your body shows you alot about your life. your daily routine. I was a meal skipper and I could cause I was so controlled with no hunger on plan but that isn’t what my life shoulda been when I worked so darn hard all day. Grab a few slices bacon, out the door and move move move and think I will eat later but then ya get hit with ‘feeling off’ or dizzy or shaky and you start to realize…hey WHY in the heck can’t my day be a normal type day and WHY can’t I give myself 30 minutes of ‘stop life time’ to just eat a meal I need? So it does open eyes to how hard one might be overworking themselves or pushing too much in what direction.

remember what life was. the body was meant for sleep sun down to sun up and relax. Wake up find food! Eat! Get water, drink! Find shelter and keep it for good survival. Avoid being eaten by Saber Tooth Tiger! Then sun down sleep again, rinse repeat.

what life is now is so diff. we push the body is so many ways, along with the brain. we are brain wiped out thru what life is today also!

just jaw flapping a bit JJ, I just chatted off for the sake of chatting HAHA
just rambling a bit. you will find new you thru your life on this plan, and it is kinda fun finding them out. some are whacky and off, but other things we gain on this plan are amazing and eye opening and of course, just better health in general is a monster plus for us in our daily lives!

you will be ok…you go eat and eat well! and take ALL the naps you need at all times

Very cool your bro is planning a wedding!

Azi · 2022-08-30 11:42:56 UTC

Last night about 9.30 I got a desire to eat checked blood at 97 so ate some chicken and goats cheese went to bed about 10 woke up at 3.30 to let dog out but couldn’t go back to sleep got up feeling hungry about 6.40 and put some food into cook checked blood 103…
Because I was hungry I still ate but it showed me I really didn’t need the extra food last night because it was still lingering in my system this morning.
So because it was above my normal I cut back on portion size of my meat.! + coffee and egg yolk.

So I won’t eat again til my blood sugar is back in the 90s.

FrankoBear · 2022-08-30 14:54:51 UTC

Baked beef ribs.

Shinita · 2022-08-30 18:55:58 UTC

About 1200 kcal today, I had an earlier than usual lunch (pork, eggs and some non-carni item because I realized I need to help out my SO or he never will finish his dish… I didn’t eat from the dish, I had something else, only a little bit because I realized I don’t want it in the end)… Still keto but the vast majority of my food was carnivore anyway.
And 6.5 hour later I feel full. So more satiated than what I like. Never liked to be full, why people has that as a goal, is their fullness feel different from mine?
IDK what is with me.
It’s possible I won’t help Alvaro with his soup today. (Tasty soup and a good experiment if I will feel the carbs. I know I will feel quite good as it’s not simple sugar and there will be protein and fat galore. My plan C, I could survive quite well using such things. But until I have meat, I rather keep avoiding it most of the time.)

Karen18 · 2022-08-30 20:04:21 UTC

I did some star running this morning, 80 flights, would have done 20 more but I started belching and felt icky so I stopped to play safe. The feeling soon passed but by that time I had fed the birds , had my meds, done my BP which was strangly very low today and prepped my brew to take outside. Watered the garden, drank the cold coffee and read my books.

Off shopping and ate out in Morrisons . I asked for 2 sides of bacon 2 sides of sausages and a skinny cheeseburger. When the waitress brought it to the table she said the chef felt sorry for my plate and added an extra sausage and rasher of bacon! How lovely was that!, I had forgotten that I had stopped eating cheese for about 3 weeks and when I saw it I didn’t fancy it. I had a tiny bit with the first bite of burger and then popped it to one side of the plate and left it, it tasted awful!

After lunch we walked round the store and I picked up more fish. Shelled mussels, some half shelled mussels, cold water prawns, cockles … none of the were pickled… and some rollmop herrings.

Dinner was rump steak. I had to cook it both sides as I opened pack of 2 yesterday and didn’t want to risk this 2nd one raw. It was nice though and ate it with bacon.
Followed it with one tub of rollmops, only 2 in these tubs and ate both. Then had the rest of the packet of bacon.

the black bit are burnt offerings from the pan lol
Now in bed for work tomorrow.

Shinita · 2022-08-30 20:13:17 UTC

I ate after 9pm (I suddenly felt some very subtle hunger and I am super easily tempted when I know I barely ate all day) but only a little and it didn’t trigger a bigger meal, wow. I was careful, the pork was surely tempting I realized that I do love pork chuck roast but I prefer when it’s cold and the fat is more firm. The meat feels too greasy when warm (the fat is lovely then too but not with that meat).
1600 kcal and 120g protein (119 but I can’t track accurately and anyway, I like rounding). It’s creepy that as soon as my 120g protein is up, I am usually fine… I track after I eat and I have many 120g protein days when I only eat until I reach satiation and don’t get hungry again…
And non-carnivore but September is coming and I am very serious. No coffee and everything, how will I do that…

This “lunch and ages later a late meal” isn’t what I like so I go for skipping lunch from now on. Then I may eat once or twice, it will be better than this. But the satiation is quite nice, I am in a nice phase and hopefully it stays with me for loooong.

MeganNZ · 2022-08-30 23:00:35 UTC

Hi Shinita, I’ve been reading your posts for about 3 months now and am getting more and more curious about why you want to eat animal products only/carnivore in September?

JJFiddle · 2022-08-30 23:23:30 UTC

Just a few minutes here before teaching my last lesson of the day, just want to answer a little.
@Fangs Thank you for the wonderful chat, beautiful writing which I have copied - not sure where I’ll paste it but don’t want to lose it. Seems like the bottom line is always be comfortable, don’t push yourself into tough schedules you can’t keep, trust that all will be well, this woe will do its job if you just get out of the way!
Yes. Thank you. For now my first job will be to make sure there’s a lunch packed for Sunday between church and the roadhouse gig. There’s never time - Roadhouse starts at the same time church ends. But hubby keeps saying it too, there has to be rest and there has to be food. He doesn’t think it was the alcohol at all. 1 per hour doesn’t produce drunkenness. Probably what you said - blood pressure. Really I have never experienced that, completely off balance and yet no slurred speech or loss of ability. Just blood pressure? Nervous system crash? But first, food, sleep, and things should stay balanced… literally! Love reading yur story.

@Karen18 Pretty plates! You always get them to bring cool plates with extra sausage, very nice.

I’ll write more later. Time to tune a viola for a lesson!

FrankoBear · 2022-08-31 05:08:48 UTC

September so close to starting. I can feel an upwelling of inspiration and resolve after a bumpy August.

Azi · 2022-08-31 03:04:15 UTC

2nd meal waited til bg was in 90s ate about 15 large shrimp and some goat cheese. That filled me up which was at about noon. Other than that just another coffee and egg yolk.

Shinita · 2022-08-31 10:29:17 UTC

Multiple reasons. I feel BEST when I keep my non-animal carbs to the minimum. More and I immediately feel a bit off, not bad but still, not my best.
I can’t afford carbs anyway, or extra protein or this much fat… I need to keep all my macros at my comfortable minimum and this is easiest on carnivore.
It’s SIMPLE and chill! And I almost can eat as much eggs and meat as I want! Add anything else and I need to eat less of them and that’s sad.
If I add plant carbs, I change in non-physical ways too. I don’t think I ever have much control over my eating though it seems it changed lately… But with carbs I am a savage. Not that much nowadays but still, I feel urges, I am less satiated and get desires and it results in overeating fat. I need ALL the help to avoid that and feel right. Carni is one help, a tiny eating window is another. They are hard to do together but I will find the way.

I like to train myself too. My ultimate goal is eating whatever I want (I already pretty much do that) while eating ideally for my body and mind.

I suspect carnivore may be the key to get more than lowish energy. There are tiny signs hinting at it. I would make SACRIFICES for more energy! And doing carnivore isn’t a sacrifice, at least not for some weeks. I am fine with an occasional off day as long as it’s worth it.

Tracking is soooo easier with eggs and meat only. Not like I will eat like that all month, I like my dairy but they complicate things and easily trigger overeating fat unless I am very focused but that’s tiring. So I trained myself to consume tiny amounts of them, I have slips but it’s fine occasionally.

Sorry, couldn’t do it shorter, it’s a complex thing.
I can say carnivores totally charmed me 3 years ago and I don’t have the power to resist the pull since I go off a lot, I eat fruits from my garden but I try to stay close and I often actually do it.
Not trying to do carnivore is about as hard as going back to high-carb. Pretty much impossible, I would only do it if I was forced by extreme things.

So it’s not just my decision, I can’t live any other way without extreme hardships. I live on eggs and meat and may add other items, be it a 2g or 150g carb day. And adding items has zillion problems while it rarely makes a good deal. I must maximize my joy, that’s how I function and make decisions, core personality. Adding various carbs bring my net joy down.

And I am serious about it in September because I had more than enough of carbs this year. I so very much need and desire carnivore at this point. I hoped for August but it had multiple very strong fruit seasons and it was hot and I am a different person then… September is waaaaay better. October is out, November will be a carni month again, December is out and January-May will be my big chance to show what I can do! It will be fun and chill and hopefully very successful even with off days here and then.
And after all those times I doubt I will look at fruits the same way as before. 2022 already wasn’t the same as 2021 regarding that.
Fruits are the number one enemy of my carnivore, it’s pretty clear. And most of them doesn’t feel good due to all the sugar. The rest is lovely but the whole is problematic in the sweeter kinds (and I love them all with few exceptions). It’s a tad sad but I think I will make it work with super tiny tastes once in a blue moon… And using the not too sweet ones, my fav fruit is lemon now, too bad it’s not my own.
And of course I can get very much joy from my fruits without eating it. And I can watch my SO enjoying them So it won’t be bad.

Whenever I have an off day, it has a huge chance I won’t like it and wish back to carnivore. It’s a bad idea NOT to try to do carnivore(-ish). Carnivore-ish is still very strict, almost completely carnivore, I wrote about it before, most non-carni items are totally banned, no matter the amount… And it’s fine to go further but I must TRY to stick to the stricter woe so things probably won’t get out of hand. And it’s easier on my mind anyway.

So… I do it because I have to. I am on my mission to become a better, very very great hedonist and it obviously involves doing the best woe for me.