Exciting morning on this thread.
I joined a Carni challenge page on fb in Jan. They said you could be carnivore or keto. After a couple of weeks I quit it, so many keto pics.
My comment on Coop’s pic was “I used to love that.”
This morning I was trying to find the egg white bread recipe and looking through the old keto books on the Kindle, almost nauseous from the pics of keto preparations and even reading the recipes. All of us here have gone through so much in getting rid of those keto ingredients, the fake foods list, all except one of my cupboards are nearly bare now. Last one to go will be sweeteners, they were so expensive, but it’s a wasted cabinet as I never open it.
So yes, let’s do keep this thread clean and easy to read for us. @Fangs Thank you.
I actually came in this morning to share this Gary Larson cartoon I found in a book.
Angus August Carnivore
Haha I like that @JJFiddle I take it it stems from my pickled cockles and mussels lol
@coopdawg i found parsons cockles and mussels today. I have opened the cockles and have to admit I prefer the ones I got from tescos . Parsons are a bit more chewy and more gritty. I bought 4 jars too 
they were £1.39 at bargain brands and then I went to sainsburys where they were £1.50. I picked up a couple of jars of mussels there at sainsburys. Also picked up some rollmop herrings in Dill preserve so I am hoping they are not sweet like the first ones I tried. If they’re sweet I will give up on them altogether.
Well we finally have rain, it started about about 3/4hour ago. I put the parasol up and stayed out in the garden as it was a bit dark in kitchen but ended up having to come inside when it threw it down. So lights on.
Brunch was a cheese omelette at the cafe. Would you believe we went off on a little trip to a secondhand bookstall halfway to Loughborough which is about 10 or so miles and could we find anywhere to grab a cuppa and a bite to eat. Everwhere en route back was sadly lacking any eateries. They were either non existent or closed! Crazy! So back to Long Eaton. Omelette was so so.
I have just eaten the rest of the brisket with special butter as it needed a bit of salt and the butter is lovely and salty. Followed that with a trial of the different branded cockles.
@JJFiddle yes I have been fairly fortunate recently with eating out. I have found being really cheerful and pleasant to the chef and waiters has maybe helped lol
I am tired, I just put this here (with the inevitable walls of texts, of course). I forgot to shot my early pre-lunch, it was 100g fried chicken liver (about 3 livers) and wonderfully did the trick.
In the end I ate around 5pm. It wasn’t easy, I didn’t eat this all but had another sausage quark quiche. And a little sour cream in the very end and even some pork belly, I thought every extra calories help (it’s already late, I don’t want to eat again if I can avoid it) and I can eat those two almost any time, even very satiated and with low appetite. I didn’t desire them but could eat them.
Then I tracked except I tracked food I hadn’t eaten and I have no idea how much meat I had from the 520g I fried. No problem, individual days may be interesting but average is more important and I eat the rest tomorrow.
I am somewhere below 1400 kcal but my protein must be high enough!
I like to have baby sunflowers in my tiny vase in the end of summer (or even autumn if I find some). The big ones are wilted but the time of many of the tiny, otherwise useless ones came! This one grew on the edge of a cornfield so it’s probably an offspring of a sunflower of 2021, I remember those, I even made photos but I don’t know how to make really good ones of sunflowers. They are so pretty flowers though. I always liked warm yellows.
Now I am sleepy. And I have just received a lapful of Pie (it’s our youngest cat). Perfect.
Tomorrow I focus on my poor pork as I keep eating little meat. I started with it but quickly lost interest (it’s a tad lean for perfect fried pork. still very nice but I can’t eat much when I don’t have appetite and my hunger, if I have any, easily goes away too) and my quark quiche was easier to eat…
It would be nice to reach a state where eating a proper meal comes naturally, I enjoy everything but I don’t eat too much… Maybe one day. I still don’t feel I can complain about today (yet. who knows what the rest of the day brings. But I hardly can mess it up).
Ah good advice. The screaming never has really worked lol 
Your ingredients list says “may contain traces of crustaceans.” but isn’t that a crustacean?
All good guys and to me it is what it WAS and all over and let the normal progression of zc in our lives keep on rockin’!!!
thanks so much JJ. A person who understands and ‘feels’ 
appreciate your thoughts on it as it fits you.
I suppose it is like prepacked stuff that says may contain nuts even when there aren’t any nuts in it. It just covers in case it gets contaminated with anything from other pre packed stuff in the same factory ???
I ate some tracked uneaten stuff, realized I tracked wrong, now I am at 1340kcal (and just went beyond 120g protein. I can’t comprehend my body’s obsession with numbers, I keep getting hungry until I reach 120g, I experienced this so many times! now it’s barely noticeable with my almost complete lack of hunger but I do feel some urge. sometimes I stay lower but it’s extremely rare. my fat intake doesn’t seem to matter - it actually does but not in the quite big range I naturally stay in. one day I want to experiment but I need to be quite curious to deliberately have abnormal days, be it too low-cal or too high-cal. they may happen here and there but it’s never my goal. okay, I wouldn’t deliberately do those things, I just would try to have some unusual fat/protein ratio and see how I feel before I balance things out if needed. probably needed but sometimes I have odd days. I like interesting macros and drawing conclusions).
Oh well, the average of my last 2 days are okay… It’s still baffling when I can’t eat when I always was waaaay too good at it.
I expect a proper day next but as my meat is lean (leanish pork and chicken liver), I better add something fattier! I only did half of my workout and I was weak as a kitten too…
With this current close to zero hunger and appetite I seem to eat my minimum protein and as much fat as it comes with it. I need about 65% fat then, oh that’s my good old percentage that I barely could leave for years, it’s easy, eggs are just there and I like that for my meat too, the leaner stuff is balanced out with extra fatty items Now I easily go way lower or higher with my fat percentage but it results in too low-cal or too high-cal days and I would prefer some more stability for most of my days. I know I am not able to stay in a small range and it’s perfectly fine (my carnivore days in the past were between 1000 and 4100 kcal though I rarely go over 2500, protein between 75 and 240g? fat 80-350g? even my fat:protein ratio couldn’t be contained in the 0.5-2 range all the time…) but my days tend to vary too wildly sometimes, from day to day and that’s problematic. My eating window is between 1 hour and 12, number of meals 1-5 and it changes day to day! It’s not convenient. Though maybe it suits chaotic me. Okay but I want to chill and be able to decide when, how much, what to eat. It’s still not clear though I don’t seem to be able to mess it up epically.
I like that I had one proper meal today and my extra, out of my natural eating window meals focused on protein. I planned such things since ages but as my control is not really an existing thing and there were forces pointing into other direction, it didn’t happen.
Maybe I should stop tracking, I keep overthinking as if it could help anything and I wouldn’t follow my whims, messing with my plans…
I don’t complain, by the way, I just want some chill where things are so obvious and right…
While I don’t even know when to eat as I don’t really have urges… Or they are in conflict, not like I am not very much used to that. I can make a decision, it’s just not necessarily the best. But different times require different decision making methods and my times change abruptly 
At least I don’t get bored of all my food now, that was the worst.
I will try to keep these to myself in the future, I can’t say anything new and interesting anyway. And it’s my own personal problem.
I actually read the comments made during my holiday! Thanks for all the good wishes, my headache messed things up but I still have some nice memories and those are without the headache. And I thought and drew and I needed that.
Alvaro finally got the single pic from his phone, it’s one of the several versions in the Zoo, our fav:
Sometimes they got carried off and used too big animals like rhinos or lions…
@Karen18: Cute orange cup! I will make photos of MY fav cups later. I usually favor simple brown ones (I prefer if there are darker and lighter browns too but I only have a plate like that) but my Aunt has some fancy ones with gold and flower and they are big for cups so a viable option for me to drink tea from! Even though tea is usually brown and I love the color so full transparency is welcomed but I like variety. And my Aunt gave me 2 cups Oh, she was some wonderful collection of glasses, the best has a hunter theme, each have a very elaborated animal artwork on it, deer, wild boar, pheasant and other common Hungarian games.
For some reason, I LOVE mugs and cups and glasses but have no more room in my cupboards 
I don’t like sets as they need too much room, of course I have some as they may be needed… But I have lots of individual single ones.
I am not into vases and only have a few and not a really good one for my flowers. I like my super tiny vase for little things like small wildflowers, the little sunflower is the biggest thing I ever put into it… But it loses its water in days, it’s so small. That is for the small table we eat on. The kitchen island has a bigger one, it’s blue and I don’t like it but it was a gift and IDK what else to do with it, it works, I focus on the plants and I don’t hate it just find it odd as it’s blue and rectangular… I filled it with some of my pet rocks (I probably have at least several hundreds at this point, maybe more… sometimes I come home from my tiny walk with 12 new rocks in my pockets… rocks are just too tempting and I paint them sometimes. did I ever bring photos of them? I made some nice ones already. I am better at portraits, it’s odd as it should be… hard? with details? but I have most experience with drawing human(oid) heads…) so it’s more stable and most of the flowers won’t get lost in it, it’s super long.
Oh and I ate a lot more at night… I shouldn’t do that. I am very weak against not feeling perfectly satiated at night. But it’s true I ate little during the day. I still should let the next day balance it out. Or I should plan and eat enough. I always can eat enough if I really try.
My plan is to have some idea of a proper day. Like, 5 eggs, 500g pork with the right fattiness and some dairy should be enough. I definitely can simplify my eating now and it naturally happens when I don’t mix in quiches and pork belly It’s fine but I can’t guess if I had enough food. I don’t like tracking But it would help - if I actually would keep eating until I ate enough… Hmmm… It would be so easy with OMAD but I need to figure out how to eat enough in one sitting in my easy satiation carni times… 2MAD then, it’s only too much food with carbs then. But I just can’t stop at 2 every time
Maybe I still need to be simple. I wanted to try that out. Only a few items a day.
I am overthinking it again. I don’t think it ever helped.
But the liver is so nice now, after a looooong break from it! I probably will finish the whole 500g soon, it lasts only for 3-4 days then and it’s over my usual speed. I ate it like that in the beginning or maybe not even then as Alvaro helped.
I really like the taste now and it’s just chicken liver and salt! I already noticed they are tastier from some sources than from others despite all being the cheapest supermarket livers I can find.
Keeping all brain waves on low level. My ‘what to cook for the day’ helps me with that being so much easier now in life.
first meal later is my 1 lb. ribeye steak.
2nd meal will be chick breast or maybe just shrimp…will see how this big steaks holds me and make 2nd meal call from there.
family doing Chick Parm with spaghetti so easiest probably to just cook up some chick for me while I cook their meal. yea, that is a plan
ZC STRONG!
Oh my, when it rains it pours! Lying here listening to the rain beating down, feeding this parched brown grass, it’s so needed~ Supposed to rain every day this week. Then who knows how long til the next one? It’s cool enough to shut off the AC and open windows and the fresh cool air is moving thru the house. So refreshing!
Yesterday’s meal was surf and turf, hamburger patties and shrimp. I couldn’t eat the hamburger. It had that off-taste from my old covid weirdness. Don’t usually taste that in meat but I’m starting to think it’s a warning of some kind and just don’t try to eat things that have it. So I ate a little of it and then most of the shrimp (from the serving bowl! Not pictured), which was delicious. But about 3 hours later I was hungry again. I couldn’t stop thinking about @Karen18’s cheese omelet so I made one and it was the perfect thing.
I taught a few students yesterday, then from 8:30 to about 10:20 attended a Toastmasters officers class, boring! My brother in Tucson who’s just had spinal surgery attended also and I did appreciate that they didn’t break out the rooms in Zoom, so I was with my brother the entire time and watching to see he was alright. He had help from his gf, as he is legally blind, so she took pics of the slideshows for him.
Afterward I sat with hubby and shared a few slices of sharp cheddar with the puppy. Then finally bedtime about 11. A good, long day.
Today the braunschweiger is finished setting - it takes 3 days. So I’ll get to turn it out of the pan and try it and snap some pics! Darn, was thinking of another pound of that burger but don’t think I’ll want it. Probably will pull out the pork shoulder I froze this past week and maybe some chicken thighs, and sous vide those. They will keep us through tomorrow.
Unusual day, I started eating way too early. I will focus not to allow this tomorrow but I am weak against not being satiated. I rarely lose it before 2pm and can wait even then but today is weird.
I eat leftovers today. And ice cream. It’s a bit meh, never managed to make ice cream made with whipped cream work without sweeteners. Mascarpone does the trick but WHY, it’s less sweeter than whipping cream! But this one is creamy and very much edible and contains precious eggs, I only have a few left. No mood to go shopping, such a gloomy day again, cold too and I need to wash my hair. Using cold water and drying it outside (I dislike using a hairdryer even in winter and totally refuse doing it in summer when I can just go out)… So I keep postponing it, it’s not that bad. I am waiting for sunshine! We had quite a few rainy and then gloomy days, it’s enough for now… It’s 1pm and 17-18C…
Been in the garden most of today. It has been just a do nothing day today 
and I don’t care that I have done nothing. I didn’t have the best nights sleep so not sure what I did different to the 2 good nights i had … hey ho it is what it is. I have work tomorrow so I am probably on a downward slide for rest of the week . I have read some and finished off a code word book and now starting to finish off the crossword books that are starting to mount up. Need to get rid.
Had brunch of 3 scrambly chicken eggs and now just had a few cockles and opened a jar of potted beef that I got from the cafe shop at the nature reserve on Sunday. Eaten half of it but will put the rest back in fridge for another day. Very nice though. Bought a jar of pulled pork too but not opened that as yet. I have a small sirloin steak for tea.
@JJFiddle it has been threatening rain here and started to spit ever so slightly but I think we’re in for some more later … we will see if it arrives!
Got to say the prawns looked good the hamburger not so good … and I am not surprised you didn’t want it all 
I would hate to lose my taste buds… I lurve my food too much!
@Fangs that 1lb of ribeye looks delish so I hope it tastes as good as it looks. Its much bigger than my tiny little sirloin for Ron!
Why your scrambled eggs look so much better than mine…? (rhetorical question, I guess. I barely have any eggs anyway, now I eat mostly meat and it’s fine but still have leftover eggy items so yay!)
After my before-noon eating (not very much but significant) I am totally satiated all afternoon… When I started to eat, I wondered about it, early eating vs carnivore. I think it isn’t nearly as bad as with carbs, I already experienced that timing is less important on/near carni, it’s good as my small natural eating window tends to explode there…
I fried the rest of my raw pork and it’s awesome. It has very much visible fat for pork thigh/butt (I googled. so butt or some kind of that is allegedly 16% fat while my Hungarian database says 5% for the thing sold as “thigh”. yep, that thing has a range, this one must be some nice butt piece?) so I suppose my tracking will be off regarding fat. It’s fine. Alvaro said he is fine without eggs (he has his cheesy egg puffs today too) as long as I give him meat. No problem, I have plenty! My freezer start to get wonderful even in the ready-to-eat department (okay, defrosting is needed but that’s quick!), I have tongue, leaner and fattier pork galore!
No worries about the near future (where a lovely young rabbit is lurking somewhere and I have turkey drumsticks as well ~. and lots of raw pork, even the 70/30 thing that makes those… scratchings? it’s sooo easier in Hungarian ).
Finally opened up the braunschweiger I made Saturday - had to let it rest in the fridge for 2-3 days. Upside down and sliced it’s not bad looking, and a big sausage! It asked for a Pullman pan so I had to buy that to make it. It’s not as smooth a blend as Boars Head but good tasting. Preferable also as Boars Head has a tiny bit of sugar as one of the last ingredients - and I could taste that difference!
I ground everything in the food processor and baked it for 2 hrs @300°F, then the 3 day rest.
I just make in a small saucepan. I heat pan on high flame, add a miniscule amount of olive oil (to stop butter burning), add a big knob of butter and then add some fork beaten eggs. I stir it fast with a wooden spoon until it is just starting to set (about 20 sec) and turn out onto plate and add salt. All takes less than 5 mins. I don’t like dry scrambled eggs so they’re out of the pan as soon as look at it!
So I checked the weight of my little sirloin @Fangs and see it is just over a third the size of your ribeye! 
170g (.3 something lbs) I half cooked it, just searing one side and it was tasty. Its funny but there is quite a taste difference between the seared bit and the raw and I am loving the raw the best but the searing gets it to the heat I like to eat it at.
And followed it with 4 rashers of back bacon
Finished off the jar of cockles I opened yesterday and then finished off the half eaten jar of potted beef
Off to bed very soon for early start tomorrow. Keep fingers crossed I get a good sleep … not expecting great things as I’ve had a lazy old day
@Naghite … so i can see salmon but what are the meats?