Angus August Carnivore


(Daisy) #202

Fasted yesterday for my weekly spiritual fast. Tried a different approach this morning and had some of those beautiful flanken ribs I had bought the other day. I used digestive enzymes in hopes of staving off the digestion issues I’ve had since trying to reintroduce food. I had seriously the worst indigestion I’ve had in as long as I can remember for the entire day. I was excited though because I thought I had avoided diarrhea. I was wrong. 2:30 pm, that came. I laid down for about 90 minutes and started to feel about 50% better. My husband insisted that I need to just start trying to eat a little more, even though I’m not hungry, to try to get my system back used to eating. So I had some bacon/ kerrygold and eggs/ghee. I am noticing since the fast and maybe the higher fat, I am desiring salt on my food again. So I did salt the eggs.

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(Judy Thompson) #203

Busy day, we left about 11 for our errands and shopping, bought a crazy strappy sundress looking thing that hubby and the saleslady said would be good for the gig, but I think it’s too relaxed. I’ll wear it with a sweater or jacket for a country gig but possibly not for the strolling gig…but maybe it will be better with the sweater.

We went to the brewery and I got my little plate of wings but I was hungry by the time I got home so putting away groceries I broke into a package of grassfed beef and that did the trick. Not too much but raw burger does it for me, always has!
We got a Sodastream machine on sale to make bubbly water, as CO2 is in short supply worldwide and Sodastream says they have plenty. I made a bottle of the carbonated water and it was great.
So that was our day. I did buy a can of smoked kippers. Don’t know exactly what’s in there but I’ll be finding out soon!


#204

too funny, let us know what is in there HA
other than some bbq meats, I am not a smoked taste fan…should be interesting on the kippers!

@Karen18
now that is alot of info on sardines, anchovies and kipps and more…you do find such good info…thanks!

@Ketodaisy, :frowning: yikes

--------------------leave today and home by 2-3 later.
I will eat cheeseburger patty I have now before we leave and I might tackle a fast food burger on the road but honestly I am SO over them, they don’t sit well in my guts but I can eat 'em if I need to but try to hold off cause I got a nice ribeye to eat when I do pull in and can fire it up fast and chow down at home.

everyone hold ZC!!! eat well. Keep your body in health mode. Don’t stress the body and don’t make the mind chaotic :slight_smile: yea now that is hard not to do isn’t it? lol Lets strive for August to settle us down, keep us calm, make us happy, feed us well and just breath thru Angus August best we all can!! WAHOO!! ZC Soldier on strong!!


#205

Hello everyone! I went to shopping, almost died from the heat but we only visited 2 supermarkets (well one was a hypermarket, my usual that works so well for meat… they got even more hyper, they sell second-hand clothes now… what.) and have sooooooooooo many things to talk about!

I had problems with locating the tinned fish so I still don’t have sardines or sprats or even info about them. I longingly looked at some pickled fish but they are full with sugar AND some oldschool sweeneter (it doesn’t matter to me if it’s oldschool or not, I hate them all except sugar alcohols. of course, even the latter shouldn’t touch my meats under normal circumstances) since AGES. Sigh. They do it with pickled vegs too but I don’t care about that.

But we bought a little catfish :slight_smile: We have no idea how to make it yet, maybe we just fry it. How to make the most from a tiny amount without introducing plants?
It won’t be as great as smoked mackerel as that is just super awesome and this is fresh fish but I don’t even remember to eat catfish, surely I did at some point but it was eons ago and I can’t remember anything let alone the taste.

I looked at the prices in the huge meat part of the hypermarket (it’s an Auchan. IDK where they are in the world but we have Auchan and Tesco here as hypermarkets. Tesco has small supermarkets too. well smaller than the hypermarket, it’s bigger than most supermarkets). So I know more than before. And there were nice sales as always :slight_smile:

So. We have the cheap meats here, chicken, turkey, pork. Hake is here but it’s more tasteless than cheap chicken…

After some gap there come the cheaper ruminants, beef leg, deer, whatever. Rabbit too I think. Some fish are here, at least on sale.

We can double or triple or quadruple this and we are still in this ruminant and fancier fish territory. Crab would be here if we had that (it’s possible to find some, somewhere but I didn’t see any now, it isn’t kept in the main meat fridges)… And duck and goose is here too especially the fatty livers of them. Veal starts super high, 7 times the pork I normally eat.

The most expensive I saw was some fancy steak and smoked fish, probably red tuna. Maybe sturgeon too?

I bought something cheap for a ruminant, fortunately there were some lovely tempting options :smiley:
I found a little beef in the -50% section and we will try something NEW!!! Mouflon :smiley: I never saw mouflon meat on sale! And I don’t even see the animals, only Alvaro does as he often goes through the wildlife part before 6am. I am lucky to see some wild piglets during the day, it’s super rare too but mouflons? Nope, never. I often see deers though, they are so many and everywhere and they aren’t THAT shy.
The little mouflon meat packet was labeled ragout and they are right, I probably should make a ragout soup from it. IDK if ragout soup is a thing elsewhere, it is in Hungary and I like it but never made it. Actually considered trying it lately. It clearly doesn’t need plants or maybe just a tad? Meat, water, some dairy (sour cream is a normal for a ragout soup according to my almost zero experiences but I liked that. surely cream would work nicely too), vinegar, spices and herbs should be enough. That fits my carnivore-ish nicely.
But we will see.

I visited the HUGE dairy section of Auchan too… They have many meters for fruit yogurt alone… It doesn’t mean I found more than ONE whipping cream there. The whole “cream and pitiful substitutuions” section is small but half of it is plant based and half of it is 10-20%. I totally remember them keeping 2-3 different whipping creams there last time :frowning:
BUT! The one I found was 35% fat! You may not now what it means. I NEVER ever ever ever saw anything above 30% here. The companies do their best to stay as low as they can because of profit, even some “whipping creams” can’t be whipped as they aren’t actually 30%.
And now we have 35%. Wow. I don’t even need this but still :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Prices are interesting. I have memories 1-2 years ago (I am so bad with time… maybe 2).
The price doubled, no surprise there BUT even the 10-20% creams has as expensive as the 30% ones. They were way cheaper before… The 35% costed the same as the 10% stuff and no idea what the plant-based things too, they probably can pull it off cheaper BUT the fanciest ones don’t. Oh I saw margarine more expensive than the butter I bought… But usually margarine is way cheaper. And now so many brands have “with butter” versions. Isn’t is pathetic, bragging about containing BUTTER when it’s margarine, it has the feeling that “butter is so much tastier but still buy us pretty please? I throw in a little butter, okay?”. Maybe I see it wrong but it’s such a weird vibe if you ask me. And I am an experienced one who knows that a good stuff mixed with a bad stuff makes a bad stuff, it works even for taste alone.

But let’s talk about nicer things.
I can pack wonderfully if I am motivated. And I am that if it’s about putting all my meat into the freezer (except the part we will eat soon. another big roast is coming and we will eat catfish ~. and the sausages and pork belly. the hypermarket had dozens of different grill sausages and I was braved and bought multiple kinds of a cheap one. but I never was particularly disappointed before and the total amount isn’t big. it’s just a little variety, it’s nice to have some easy to eat fun processed stuff if I end up eating my normal meat and it’s not enough. oh I didn’t look at the ingredients… the dry sausage was somewhat expensive but it’s my fav, 150g meat was used for 100g and it has NO dextrose. It’s remarkable these days though my way cheaper, still good, softer sausage has no added sugar either if I remember correctly. sausages are easy to find without added sugar, other processed meat items are trickier).

So. Now I have:

  • 4.8kg pork chuck (it was on sale. tiny difference but still good).
  • 1.5kg pork ham/butts (+1.7kg that I will roast today). oh and 910g “fried”, more like cooked as the first part of frying is that, it releases a lot of water and I keep the lid on. so it’s all pale but it will be little time to fry into perfection when the need arises!
  • about 2kg, probably a bit more 70/30 pork, great to make lard and those lovely fatty crunchy bites I like and had today.
  • 2 turkey legs (the lower leg part, it’s only 900g but it’s a nice variety, I don’t use it as a staple. it’s maybe 400g meat per person, always forget how heavy is the bone… definitely not enough for a meal for me, fowls aren’t substantial enough. but I like turkey, it’s cheap and tasty and adds variety)
  • a lovely rabbit!
  • 2x500g chicken liver
  • 2 soft sausages, the kind I love, a bit too fatty but that’s what my 6:3 sponge cakes are for (6 egg whites and 3 yolks for 12 muffins, good along with some too fatty/salty/rich food)
  • 500g mouflon (yeah, it’s tiny but still :D)

We even bought 30 eggs on the way home (Alvaro checked all the zillions of different kinds of eggs in Auchan and they either had the wrong code or nothing at all on them). Not many but I barely use a few a day now.

Of course we bought dairy and I have 3 packets of grill sausage and my lovely expensive dry sausage, enough for a month with my eating speed (I would eat it slower but it would spoil. actually I don’t know if it lasts for a month when opening the package. it’s very dry and not the worst quality either so it has chances? even my softer, cheaper one lasts for weeks every time. normal, dry sausages are supposed to last long, they had to survive almost a year when people made them for themselves in the ancient times… one month is nothing. just for these modern things in a fridge. I don’t even have a pantry. my Grandma had no bathroom, not even water on the property, the house actually lowered the value of the land it was on but she had a small pantry :frowning: maybe I can have a pantry cupboard one day, hard to find the corner for it but possible. not like I really miss a pantry but it’s a thing one should have if you ask me).

So… I feel pretty much stocked :slight_smile: I have some tinned fish too.

Finally I stopped my eating all day. I started after 2pm (not considering the tiny milk in my coffee in the morning. it’s a comfort thing for my throat and soul or something). I had my leftover fatty pork bites (yum. not much as I ended up having some at night. I was hungry. it’s my new, sickness hunger… it deserves a better need. so, when I totally don’t focus on food, I am busy with other things but some hunger still reaches me in its distant surreal way. it’s a new type of hunger for me and I already had quite a few) and 2 eggs and my tiny leftover broth. Some sponge cakes. And I just run out of things to eat and I wasn’t so hungry so I just had an eggy coffee. I stop the coffee when I fully heal. I am sure it’s my last day.

Now I should focus on something else, food was too much on my mind today but it was our big city shopping and I got excited too.

Oh forgot to say that if some marinade touches some meat slices, it immediately doubles the price while lowering the meat content and adding sugar and whatnots to it. Soooo not worth it. Chicken thighs become higher priced than deer hamburgers (oh yep we have them now, just the patties. but the mouflon was called “ragou” too and it’s only the meat… maybe it’s a thing now).

We took back the piggie, got Italian things from Alvaro’s Mom (and I got a book of minerals with many pics, yay! I love minerals. fossils are mentioned too)… I really don’t know why she gives us 400g candy packs (no fat or protein, just carbs and water)… But then Alvaro promptly consumed half of it (then run to brush his teeth)… Wow. He has abilities… He hates added sugar and wouldn’t use it but eats it in gifts. Quickly. Before a nap. Oh well, he will use it up later.
But I didn’t want to talk about that or the other, slightly better candy (as it has other macros too) but the thing I tasted. Not carnivore but not bad for me, cheese filled pickled capsicum in olive oil. It was so nice (I ate the runt of the bunch, it was spicy so it was enough for me), I will help him to eat it before I can wrap this odd time before some almost pure carnivore.
I have no big problems with my diet right now, it’s nicely low-carb, all my normal meals are carnivore with very very tiny extras added to my day, my body has no complaints but it’s still not as good as it could be. I just had circumstances but they won’t last more than maybe a day now.

I LOVE smoked taste! Oh and I forgot but we found 2 different smoked cheese! It’s exciting, sometimes our food just calls for smoked cheese and it’s sad not to have it.
Alvaro’s cheesy whipped egg white muffins (it’s such a mouthful when the dish has no proper name and I even try to say it in English in an informative way) used to have smoked cheese but when they got too expensive or the cheaper one changed for the worse, we started to using our cheap, not smoked cheese (Gouda. it’s actually not a cheap item but for cheese, it is. prices do odd things. slightly aged Gouda costed almost the same as newer Gouda but then it suddenly got WAY more expensive. so cheese being on the same price level travelled far from each other. and Gouda works just fine but a smoked cheese still have its roles). It worked but I am sure it will be nice to make it with smoked cheese again.


(Karen) #206

I used to eat a load of pilchards as I preferred them to sardines but that was back in the day before carnivore. Unfortunately I could only get them in tomato sauce which was obviously fine with me at the time, mind you I could always drain them like I do the oil or brine and give them a rinse under cold water. They are bigger than sardines but very tasty.

Smoked kipper is very nice but I can’t imagine eating canned smoked kipper … freshly smoked whole kipper is delish. I have put my kipper in freezer as it was running out of date. My trouble is that I buy them when I see them in the fish mongers and its always when I have got a pile of stuff out of the freezer defrosting in the fridge so I end up eating my way through what I have defrosted and having to put the kipper in freezer!

Had half a day at work after sleepless night. Endured a bit of stress with a particular job this morning… I done bode well with any amount of pressure now … took me a good 3 hours to complete the job to be told I had delved deeper than I needed to, but if I hadn’t and I missed all the I do I found out I would probably have been in the SH1T for that , no win situation really. Everything settled down after I finished that job and I got my brunch. The usual cooked sliced chick in butter.

Daughter knew I wasn’t taking Raymond dancing this afternoon because of the heat and so asked for my help picking up some heavy items from the auctions in a van she hired… fortunately the van had air con so the 45 min drive to Uttoxeter wasn’t too bad. She is moving mid Aug and had bought a bath, very long radiator 2 sinks, two vanity bathroom cabinets, shelving units and some other stuff to do up their current hone to rent out. We came home via the same auctioneers in Derby so she could collect some other bits and then dropped them off at her house. We were a bit hot and bothered by the time we had to offload the radiator which was crazy heavy so of course we ended up falling about laughing. We had to leave it outside the back of her house… I said it will be safe , can’t see anyone walking off with that :rofl: brand new, still wrapped in bubble wrap, she bid £4 and won it! She didn’t measure it though before bidding and when she thought it might be a good idea to do so she found she had already won the bid :rofl:

Made some of my home spiced chicken wings for dinner and followed them with a bowl of canned mackeral. I think I have a thing for fish at the mo. May have one of the sirloins that are in the fridge a bit later on… they’re only small ones.


#207

Oh, @Karen18’s sunlit wings is here, this part of the universe is in order :smiley: I love these pics, it contains a bunch of my favorite colors…

I managed to stuff about 1500 kcal (and my safe 120g protein or close) in 3 meals… I still can’t eat properly, it’s super odd! No appetite, only the tiniest hunger but they disappear after a few bites… But it’s IF (6 hour eating window today. I doubt I will eat more today as my protein is up and my calories are okay too) and I ate eggs and meat and it was easy and fine. Just not my usual relationship with food. Not like it’s always the same, I had uninterested days before. As long as I can eat and I get my food joy on most days, it’s okay.

And I am too hot. It’s nothing like the usual heat but still. Since I am sick, I am usually hot. Sometimes I was cold, similarly without a good enough reason. Okay, drinking my hot tea and hot other stuff doesn’t help with the heat but I am hot now and I only drank room temp water now.
But it’s August :frowning: Of course it’s somewhat hot. But it’s not so bad now, I would be fine normally…

I am definitely WAY better today. I am super hopeful now. No, I am pretty sure it’s nearly over now.

And we will watch the Perseid meteor shower today we hope. We go to the hilltop, we see plenty of the sky there. Here there are houses and trees in the way, I need to go to the sunflower field at least, it starts 10 meters from the house, I actually mow the lawn until next to it (except the last 1-2 meters, I neglected that this year, the neighbours do but I actually live here… still, if I neglect a part, that’s that with a reason. it’s full with young sour cherry trees now and I cut off zillions, I mean it, not just a few dozens, sour cherry seeds have a super high chance to become a small tree, it’s crazy, the other trees don’t have that. only our quince produced a young one during the last decade. maybe a few more but I cut them out…?)…
I missed stargazing but I never do it in summer as darkness comes so late. And my favorite, Orion isn’t in the sky anyway. I always find that first, possibly because I clearly see that part of the sky from the terrace when I go out to watch the stars. And my fav star, Betelgeuse is in it :smiley: Okay, I pretty love our Sun too, for selfish reasons… :wink:

Did I mention before that I saw multiple sunflower fields today and they were in BLOOM? “Ours” left that phase weeks ago… Saw some utterly horribly dry corn fields too. And I always think about pigs then and almost get worried…


(Karen) #208

Thank you @Shinita they do look pretty on the plate I must admit especially with the sun shining through the window onto them. Wow I hope you get to see the meteor shower. I can remember about 18 to 20 years ago my bf (at the time, we are still very good friends) took me to the clear sky of the countryside to watch a meteor shower. Hundreds of shooting stars sprayed across the darkness. It was quite magical. Not seen anything like it since. The moon was bright last night, its the last supermoon of the year for us.

I am sending you this photo of my woolly flower, it really looks as though some dear old lady has knitted a jumper for the bloom lol.

Ended up having scrambled duck eggs instead of steak


(Judy Thompson) #209

Leaving for our gig in just a couple hours and I need to get a shower, but stopping in to say hi first. Took the puppy out with me to get the car washed - was going to wash it here but when I googled whether to use dish soap on it, one post said it’s better to take it to a car wash mainly because of the huge amount of water it takes to run the hose so long! We’re on water collection tanks and experiencing another long drought here so I decided to run it into town. Complications with closed stations and long lines, and it ended up taking a couple hours. I got home after 1pm, started lunch and we ate around 2. Just a burger patty with melted cheese and a smoked sausage, forgot to snap a pic, but filling. and nice. Both of us fell asleep immediately for an hour!
At any rate, lthat’s my day so far. Another tantalizing performance coming up in a few hours :slight_smile:


#210

@Karen18: I like fluffy plants! :smiley: Smoke trees are my big favs, there are many of them around me.
I never saw a flower like yours, it looks fun!

Alvaro went asleep, told me to wake him up if I see meteors but there are clouds and a very shiny Moon outside. And a few stars. Not ideal but maybe I will go out later. I hope tomorrow will be better. The Moon is hopeless but the sky may get more clear.

I got hungry again (but my macros showed it will be okay… it seems even my body isn’t THAT predictable. just almost) so ate the rest of my microwave quiche. It is so tasty even without the niceness only my oven can do (why my microwave oven has a grill function I don’t know, when I tried, it did little in little time and I won’t turn it on for a loooong time, my oven works better for that. sometimes I wanna look it up if anyone can do anything with that stupid grill function but never find it important. but the microwave is bigger and better and prettier than the cheapest ones so I hope it is really worth the extra cost. I think so)…
Maybe I should eat some pork roast too, I have these times when I eat enough but very little meat and my body gets hungry again and again. And I eat meat at some point and it stops. But what is the logic in it? I always could get very well satiated being a vegetarian… Okay, that was before I introduced things to my body…
It still could wait until TOMORROW.


(Michael) #211

I got lucky today and bought 72 sheep spleens. Highest food in Iron, which I need apparently. Sheep spleen baked with butter inside, sheep testicle chips and most of one beef cheek (best tasting thing on plate). Not a bad breakfast, although not for everyone either.


#212

You really have a talent to reach new heights… :smiley: I wouldn’t bat an eye for some sheep testicles at this point but chips :smiley: It sounded funnier this way. People have sweet potato chips, kale chips, all kinds of weird but common chips… You have edgy testicle chips!
I tried to explain the things in my brain, maybe I am not good enough now, it’s late and I am in an interesting state…

The sky got more cloudier so no meteors for me now.

And I ate pork. Nice.


#213

yes I get this :sunny: too excited, surrounded by the foods ya want in your home and SO many options, yea I been there.

Your post was really great S!!! I enjoyed reading it!

I had to look up your Mouflon, I never heard of that one…but you scored well.

interesting info about a pantry, cause ya know a pantry IS ANY thing you make into a pantry. I don’t have one either…what I did before we remodeled our home a bit and I put ‘in a closet/pantry/catch all’ back there cause I could and took advantage of it then…I just used a rack. A small rack of 3 shelves and boom, that was my pantry, so I know they can be over the top and fine and dandy and more but darn in the end, a pantry is just a place with a bit more storage for your food items. Don’t give it too much weight ya know, I never did.

My ‘pantry’ now is where I store my kayak life vests, I put in my steam cleaner, I have all my energy saving light bulbs in there and other crap HAHA

You and my husband…he adores smoked darn near anything!! I just have an issue with smoked taste in that it can hit fine with like meat but only some of them, and never cheese and more cause I find the taste SO overpowering but my hubby is a ‘smoker :wink:’ like you…smoke it and he will eat it HA I really think it is ya love it to death or you kinda might eat some or alot of people are off smoked items so? really personal on that one for sure!

If you love them that much truly, and they float your boat, yea I would easily buy them and I would rinse them and pat them down and see if this ‘still makes ya happy’ cause I don’t see anything wrong with doing just that.

I still eat ‘regular ol’ store bought mayo’ in my tuna when I have it. I like it, I do well on it, it gives the tuna that ‘taste I want’ and oils/fats me up more and I don’t care one bit and the reason, I flourish on a darn heaping tablespoon of reg. ol’ mayo when I want it. It never done me harm, so, hey we ALL gotta live and enjoy :sunny:

I so enjoy reading your posts K!

@JJFiddle
I know you guys will give it your all when it comes to your music and entertaining!! Enjoy your evening!! Let us know how it goes.

--------------------SO I GO and lightly nuke my burger patty before we leave the campground and pulled the plate from it and the burger slide fast right off onto the floor and into sand and some damn dog hair from Bolt cause I didn’t sweep yet and I was like, ok that ain’t happening!!

so I ate 2 burger/cheese patties from fast food. they were ok. ick…not really HA

came home and working on rv unloading and big Tstorm came and NOW power went out…ugh…what next? hope power comes back on I guess…wee…


#214

Last night was a thick cut Porterhouse steak pan-fried in butter. A playing card size slice of sheep’s milk halloumi fried in the steak juices of the pan. I did eat some olives with a mug of warm beef bone broth as ‘starters’.

I drove home back to the countryside on Thursday night. Yesterday’s home breakfast was 4 scrambled, pasture fed chicken eggs and three rashers of middle bacon (that is streaky bacon and eye bacon still connected in a long rasher). Two coffees about 3 hours apart before 1 pm. Long black with some cream. The barista calls the combination a “Vienna”.

There was sunshine. Today, another winter cold front is gifting the cosy homestead with cold wind and rain. But yesterday I was outside doing chores and being active in the sunshine. Later, Mrs. Bear, Billie and I wandered deep into the forest, looking at early wildflowers, fallen ancient trees from recent winter storms, and discussing and debating about vegetarianism, the different types of vegans, and the benefits of raising beef in a regenerative, pasture-fed system. In there, there was politics of feeding people, and how cafes don’t seem to stock fresh cream from cow’s milk, they may have cream in a spray can, but they have 10 types of nut or seed juice that have a canola oil base. We walked for hours in the perfume of the waking forest. We may have solved nothing but ourselves.

The body aches and pains felt in the city dissolve and resolve in the countryside. My current existence is all Robert Louis Stevenson, suitably Scottish like Angus beef, the story of a carnivore Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

I was listening to Dave Asprey, who is a low carb entrepreneur millionaire, making his money off the human need to be healthy. We have to be careful in listening to him, as he is trained in neurolinguistic programming. He is not a fan of muscle meat, salt, and water carnivore eating. But is a proponent of animal-based low carb eating, with added nutritional biohacks such as adding herbs to carnivore meals for accessing minerals taken up in those plants.

Interested to read what he says about improving sleep with trying some nutritional biohacking. This is a short list of 6 hacks to try…

It includes coffee timing and adding omega fish oils. There is information about fat content of the last meal of the day, and a closer look at protein. It’s all pretty basic stuff. But worth a revision, and maybe a recalibration, I think.

I found these tips helpful in my case with work stress.


#215

I’ve watched videos about improving my sleep (never found a good tip, I already did most things right and couldn’t change the rest…? maybe some made no sense for me) but there wasn’t much food related stuff here (surely there was some, I don’t remember much).
So I skimmed the first article. SOOO not for me, I like to eat proper food, not supplements (no problem with good supplements, I just don’t take them. I still never saw MCT oil, it’s a legend from the internet to me but I wouldn’t touch it anyway as I too often overeat fat when I try to minimize my fats and avoid added fats too… maybe webshops could sell it, no idea but surely, MCT oil is an older thing at this point. but once I checked webshops for a popular sweetener and Hungary just didn’t seem to have it so there are such items).

And I am aware that many people dislike big meals right before bed (while some people loves there OMAD then) but “it’s tough to fall asleep when you’re full”… Wow. Really? It is, like, the easiest to fall asleep when one is full, I tend to be less awake and energetic after a big, satiating meal. I don’t fall asleep easily during the day and sometimes I miss the now tiny window to go to back to sleep if I wake up too early… So when I have lack of sleep, I wait until I eat a big meal and try to nap right afterwards as it is my best chance. Interesting that it’s so different for us. I always kind of understood the thing where one doesn’t sleep well then, I just don’t have it and why would I. Really, why should digestion has problems with the host being asleep? Doesn’t make it easier, not to do other things so the focus can be on the food (and the zillion important things the body does but still less than awake)?
I still like not eating 8 hours before sleep, I just rarely manage to do it. I ate 1 hour before sleep last night but I wasn’t satiated and I don’t go to sleep not satiated.

I just was mildly surprised, I don’t argue with the article, it probably is great for some others. Tips are often useful even if they just tips so may or may not work for some.
I am used to reading a string of tips where I wouldn’t even try any as it’s either surely useless or have the opposite effect or I am not willing to do that as it’s foreign to me.

My sleep was okay but not ideal now and I know the reason, I went to bed at 3am again… I even know why I did it…
My throat and voice isn’t perfect but not soar, it’s the last pathetic desperate day but it’s over, I think.

I have plenty of meat, maybe I will make a photo even if it’s pale as 2 hours isn’t enough for smallish pieces (a pound or almost so about a modest daily portion) to get fully right. But it’s so tender like that, not dried out… And I can throw it into a pan if needed. This is my new style for this leaner cut. Pork chuck is nice more roasted as the fat content keeps it from becoming dry and boring and pork shoulder isn’t good enough for me either way, I just don’t roast it anymore and use the 70/30 pork pieces instead of it whenever I can.

But it’s not even 11am yet so I try to forget about the pork lest I jump it with exactly zero need. Roasts are so tempting :slight_smile: But I am really okay, I ate enough yesterday.


(Michael) #216

I got home after midnight last night, fried up over a pound of ground, ate it at 1 am and slept great until I woke up. I love sleeping after eating.


#217

Jebus!


#218

@FrankoBear
wonderful to read your post FB!

You know the life you want. You want the stroll thru the forest with Mrs B and Billie and taking in nature and your lovely homestead and your daily routine as you set it and I understand that :slight_smile: But your work and city is the big KA-BAM in your face. I would consider, if you could, any type of remote working or anything more to get out of the work environment and put it on your terms, of course I have no idea if any of this can happen in your position etc??? so just a comment on it. I figured you are evaluating your work forward in the yrs to come but of course nothing happens overnight but a bit of a sneak peak into what you can do for yourself is always a good thing…sending good vibes for ya!!

and one of the reasons you mighta ‘wanted those olives you ate’ is you needed some salt. were they salty type cured? just wondering cause alot of times when I ‘need salt’ in any way my mind goes to tater chips LOL but when I get that feeling, I know to go eat something with salt on it and boom, I am happy…not saying that was you on it but if those olives were salty type, then it mighta been your draw to them.

You are so lucky to have your wonderful homestead to come back to and have Mrs B and Billie there to make ya smile!!

I used to do this when I started carnivore. I could eat zc any time of day except upon waking. I could hound down a 1 lb ribeye at 10 at night and sleep a bit later and be fine…now 5 yrs in I changed as to where I don’t require it. Not that I can’t eat it and do it, but now the body says, nah, don’t need it. But I am also not on a more active schedule that changes my eating ya know, being early retired I ‘found my zc eating pattern’ and it fits my life so that helped me immensely.

more power to ya!! Eat, eat when we need it, eat when it feels right and the body responds in good form to it :sunny:

----------------So got power back to house. omg we have to mow the world around this acerage…ugh.

hit grocery for a few things in a bit.

then home to unpack rv and finish up some chores and more. busy day but good one.

I will see what I can score at the market on markdown meat prices and see if anything diff. floats my boat thru today. Got my mind on pork chops tho :slight_smile:

ZC Strong All!


#219

Wild violets in the forest after the rain.

Rib eye steak baked in the iron camp oven on top of the wood fire for dinner. Rainwater for dessert.


#220

not from a city view from a cubicle in a sterile working environment is it?
I tell ya FB I made massive life decisions for me and hubby and I said F the income and it was based on his ‘back health’ that was deteriorating at a fast speed from his job and our entire ‘farm biz’ that was huge physical labor contstantly and based on me knowing my personal way forward had to be ‘out of the rat race’ or I would perish and I know one damn thing about me, I am into total survival mode for my hubby’s lifestyle and health and mine, so I put big metal to the pedal and made some of the scariest azz choices I had to make but ya know what, I look back and think, hot damn I did it but I also think you are more younger than me, I am 61 and hubby is 56 but we did this like 5 yrs ago and one thing I say, I wouldn’t not do it again…but with rising costs and more I think damn I want that bigger income, WHY did I? screw it LOL cause I know one thing about us, we can do on very little and we have before so I know one thing about us, we survive point blank and hopefully will smile all thru it with OUR HEALTH being the number one most important issue in life…so…

now this is ME and the crazy I walked and talked and thought about for a hardcore amt of time on what in the hell was our best way forward and we chatted and he didn’t wanna quit his job, and I get that, but in the end all I saw was a crippled up overspent ol’ man in a wheelchair I would have to deal with in his late 60s easily so I made the call for us and said, follow me baby and we got this :slight_smile: Health trumps all at every turn and we forget that so much, we truly do. I guess I can say we gained MIND BODY AND FOR SURE THE SOUL of our life back.

again now this is how it went down for us :sunny:

everyone has to do themselves and think what works and doesn’t but in the end all right choices, even tho super tought but helping us also thru new income and more just put us on a better health path…but again, I say this with ALL shout, this is US now LOL and the life WE walked ya know :wink:


(Karen) #221

I would love to try some of the food you cook on the wood fire x