An apology to the forum


(Art ) #41

#wecanwait ?

I disagree, there is an urgency here. It’s heartbreaking to bury people before their time. I want to help them.

What made you take the leap? Anyone answer.

Because my motivation (as you might expect) is so shallow - it has it’s own sphere of shame to it. I stand zero chance of motivating anyone with my true story. At least I am sociopath aware enough to know that.


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #42

Blood cancer (multiple myeloma), the damage of chemo/bone marrow transplant and a desire to feel better, but losing weight and being able to use my body with ease is a major bonus.


(Ashley) #43

Basically what I was trying to get at with the “ people using them for the wrong reason and not for the right ones” like people with disabilities.


(hottie turned hag) #44

I was only fat for around 3 years, postmenopause. (I was 115-125 from ages 14-49 unless pg. Am now again at 114). I started to feel lousy and am not down with that as I’ve never had a single health problem. I knew what my new symptomology betokened and the etiology thereof and was all like, hell to the no. So I started keto and dropped all the weight super fast and felt/feel great again.

I’ll take a stab at it and guess…you wanted to score with hotter chicks.
#HereLiesBeavisHeNeverScored
:skull:


(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #45

I totally get that. I just felt a need to make my statement.

There really isn’t a good solution, especially when some people consider it a disability (but that is a can of worms I don’t want to open).


(Ashley) #46

I think like I posted above being mad at the food industry, being mad at the paid advertising of food industries. I think you also have to realize as with food addiction, it’s on the same level as drug addictions. It’s something that’s pushed on us in advertising. We have allowed it to happen, but people also have a hard time with any addiction quitting when started. But i was once in that situation and have changed my eating habits, but I’m also human and have failed at times and given in to temptation. I used to be really angry at drug users until I realized how they can’t control their “disease”. I agree with some of the comments here art. But also I wouldn’t go to the extent you have with some of the rash comments. Although that is my opinion. My anger stems with more not knowing how to help most people with these issues lives in a positive way as I am one person. It sucks and sad to see it, but I don’t judge them. I do however judge the lies we are told about this is healthy or that’s it not when it’s a load of crap to keep their products flying off the shelf.


(Jane- Old Inky Crone) #47

I weigh 131 pounds, yet, I sometimes have to use those powered carts if I’m to make it to the back of the store to pick up the meds for my autoimmune diseases and Hashimoto’s thyroid disease.


(Little Miss Scare-All) #48

:joy::rofl::joy:

I smell the distinct smell of a fat-shamed little boy who finally lost the weight, and now carries on the same shaming towards others.

No one’s claiming being fat is good for you, but I think what gets lost in the sauce is it’s not out of concern for people’s health that a tirade ensued, but because he hates fat ppl due to, most likely, having been picked on for being one, probably by his own parents. Maybe he wakes up in cold sweats with audible hallucinations of children chanting Arty Farty Two By Four Can’t Fit Through The Bathroom Door

He sounds like my dad. Kenny, is that you??


(hottie turned hag) #49

O.M.F.G I AM SO DEAD
:skull:
RIP
:coffin:

laughed audibly not even joking I startled the wee dog


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #50

Fantastic post, but I see zero need for apologies. It sounds to me like your raging at the medical community… NOT anyone here…
I mean, is their really anyone here who doesn’t agree with you ?
I dunno… maybe. But I couldn’t agree more.

You summed it up quite well. Would you mind if I copied and pasted that on my FB page ???


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #51

I think he was saying, “He was not one to make up conspiracies”… What big pharma is doing is “obviously a conspiracy”.


(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #52

You are way too freaking sensitive. Maybe try paying more attention to all the very important, completely true stuff he wrote about.

I don’t need to agree with every single thing a person says… In fact, i rarely do. But generally speaking, he was spot on about the medical community and big pharma.


#53

That’s bang out of order.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) closed #54

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) unlisted #55

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) listed #56

(Richard Morris) #57

apropos of nothing, Peter Finch (go to a window and scream “I’m mad as hell and I won’t take it anymore”) is my paternal grandmothers first cousin. And one of 2 Australians to have won a posthumous best actor oscar. Not related to Heath Ledger tho :slight_smile:

This anger, we have all felt it, can be directed incohately like this lashing out at everyone and anyone (ADA, AHA, Ancel Keyes, Fat people, People who give fat people mobility scooters, Wal-mart, the Junk food industry) … or it can be directed laser like at the problem.

That second choice - focusing on the problem - is the motivation behind why I helped @carl reverse diabetes, why I cast pods for 2 years to help Carl help an audience of type 2 diabetics, why why we wrenched our audience away from Facebook and started the forum, we created ketofest, and why I went back to Uni to do Biochemical research, and why Carl invented bZoodles.

Here’s a roadmap for how I think this will work;

  • Teach type 2 diabetics (who have the most skin in the game) how to reverse their disease
  • Help them teach their diabetic friends and loved ones
  • Help them teach their health care providers how they achieved the impossible
  • Help Health care providers to understand the mechanistic explanation of how the impossible is possible
  • Help Health care providers to lobby the peak bodies (ADA, AHA)

And while we are doing this help the community to see that sick people are not the problem, they are the symptom. They should be helped not pitied or mocked. they should be helped to understand how their choices are perverted by the environment they are in to make them sicker. And show those who can, how to change their environment.