An apology to the forum


(Art ) #1

I want to apologize for some of my terse messages over the last few weeks.

It’s a result of frustration with the current situation which as I see as this:

In the same way the UCI (cycling’s governing body) shielded Lance Armstrong from his positive doping results (this is an established fact) they failed to do the right thing because there was too much money flowing in as a result of the “beats cancer - wins the Tour de France” story.

In my view, it is the same with the American Diabetic Association, and the American Heart Association. There is too much money in the fight diabetes and heart camps. For every time a medical scientist publishes a rigid paper showing the benefits of X, there is a corporation willing to pay for an poorly laid out observational paper showing the opposite of X. End result - “Coke with HFCS is just as healthy as Coke with sugar or even a serving of OJ” And they’d be partially right as long as that serving of OJ wasn’t at midnight in a Brentwood garden.

But the avg American is easily fooled and just reads the headline as they eat a McGriddle, hash browns and Coca-Cola each morning.

I’ve realized my former primary Dr. is either inept, obtuse, corrupt or best case, hamstrung by the standards of the associations and governing bodies that would prevent him from supporting and embracing KETO and IF for his hundreds of morbidly obese patients.

Maybe if the members of those bodies and my former primary had to cut off limbs of diabetics on a weekly basis like Dr. Gary Fettke, they might have the conscience or courage to do what we all know is the right thing.

I don’t believe in conspiracies. Oswald shot Kennedy, the US went to the moon and the large medical associations don’t want a cure. They want to dip their cups, now buckets, into the river of cash flowing to treat the symptoms of these illnesses without ever looking at the root cause.

What other explanation can there be for these associations to continue to recommend 200-300 gms of carbs daily? Go to hell Dr. Ancel Keys, and every last one of your adherents and lemming practitioners.

This morning, I tried to explain the link between sugar, fructose, inflammation, CRP and IL-6 to a diabetic friend who is MO, coronary disease and the walking definition of ‘doing the same thing- expect different results’ insanity that used to be funny to me. His Dr. either ‘never told him that’, told him ‘something different’ or the complete opposite - that’s if he even heard what his Dr said.

In just a few years, I will be standing next to him after they cut off a foot or have kept him alive after a massive coronary just long enough to say good bye and take zero satisfaction with - I should have listened to you.

People are sick, people are dying. It’s a pandemic. I’ve been to three funerals this year and was a pallbearer at 2 of them.

Like Fettke states #wecantwait

It’s time to be as “mad as hell” and “not going to take this anymore”.

My apologies to those that are truly trying and those that are patient enough to try to help for those that aren’t yet.

But right now I’m as mad as hell because the answer has been there all along. The problem is not only is it essentially ‘free’ the US and perhaps the world economy would be decimated if we gave up the modern fad diet of sugar, carbs and processed foods.

Imagine the local Walmart devoid of its middle aisles and all of those farm sized people looking endlessly for Cool Ranch, Snackwells and 100 calorie sized cookies servings they’ll have 10 of.

Why do they even have powered grocery carts? Isn’t that god’s way of saying you’re too fat to shop?

Yeah, the photo below is funny but it also makes me as mad as hell.

[WARNING: some people may find this offensive ~carolt]

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(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #2

Thanks for explaining your viewpoint. A lot of people are much too easily upset and/or too easily misconstrue a statement as personal attack. It might help some here realize we all come from our own experience, trials and errors. Berating a bad idea is not necessarily berating the person who holds it - except Ancel Keys. It is enormously enlightening when a person suddenly realizes he/she is not the center of the universe with the rest of us in orbit.


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #3

Well said.
Why do they even have powered grocery carts? Isn’t that god’s way of saying you’re too fat to shop? Made me laugh out loud.
But then the photo just mad me sad and then angry as well.

Even Ancel Keys said he was wrong in the end, but he could not control the snow ball of misinformation he had created.


(Art ) #4

Before I got on KETO and lost weight it sometimes seemed like I had my own gravitational pull.

Yours truly,
Pluto… er uh… Bluto


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #5

You did, but it was only local. :innocent:


(Little Miss Scare-All) #6

What was it like? I mean, when you were there to see it happen. It must have pandemonium.


#7

You might enjoy the uncensored version?


(Jane) #8

That is my definition of a conspiracy - they are conspiring - as in… in cohoots with each other - to keep us unhealthy to increase their profits. Same with the processed food companies.


(Ashley) #9

It makes me angry that we have allowed food industries to lie about their food. I am angry at myself for allowing myself to eat said food. I’m angry at people who use these carts when they don’t need them, as many handicapped people do. I’m pissed off my country doesn’t put sugar on labels as a daily allotment, rather we leave that percentage blank in America. Angry I can’t help everyone see the brighter side of food. Screw you America with your bullcrap advertising, and keeping people sick with misinformation.


(Art ) #10

I was in Norway earlier this year where they have a ‘sugar tax’. As a result, a candy bar and can of coke will cost you about $12. That one way we could reduce the pandemic and / or pay for it. But look how much flak Bloomberg got when he went to prohibit Big Gulps over 16 oz.

Not to mention, he didn’t go far enough as ‘healthy juice’ was exempted from the regs. We’re so far off base.

Seriously, the American economy depends on junk and fast food. And if we have a large scale ground war, most will be 4F. Although the current system doesn’t include diabetes of obesity.


(Failed) #11

I agree with most of your post, except this:

I have my own mobility scooter, not because I am morbidly obese (I do have about 50 lbs to lose) but because of diabetic neuropathy and some weird virus or something doctors refused to diagnose. It paralyzed my right leg, which recovered within a couple of weeks, then my left leg, which is still partially paralyzed. Shortly after the issue with my legs, I slept for nearly 3 weeks, could not stay awake, couldn’t swallow food, and only a little water. I ended up weighing 135 lbs when I finally woke up for more than a few minutes at a time. I wish I’d known about keto then-I wouldn’t have gained it all back.

I finally consented to go to the doctor and he basically said, “Huh. How odd.” Referred me to a neurologist who did a LOT of tests and finally diagnosed me with MS, and gave me info about a lot of really horrible medicines to choose from. Since I’m not stupid and neither is my wonderful daughter, we did our own research and realized that whatever I had, it definitely wasn’t MS. I tossed the literature the dr gave me and never looked back.

That was over 4 years ago, and I still don’t have any symptoms of MS and, except for my left leg, which I’m hoping will improve as my body heals, I’m doing well.

I’m 2 months into keto and hope to someday be able to give up the scooter, along with my rollator. For now, though, it allows me to go places with my husband, instead of being housebound like I was for nearly a year before I got it.


(Art ) #12

Janie you nailed my logical bliss point. :slight_smile:

They don’t need a cabal - they know what’s good for them.

And they know what’s good for each other. As an example, in the past I never had chips unless it was with a soda, and almost most of the time, the opposite was also true.


(Art ) #13

Dee - it wasn’t my intention to offend scooter users but fat scooter users. I can’t really say more without semi-revealing myself but I have been part of an organization that’s helped several hundred thousand people get devices that freed them from lack of mobility.

Glad to hear your recovery is going well.


(Lisa) #14

I am sorry I clicked on this thread. Maybe you’re trying to be funny and I just don’t get the “joke,” but I don’t see humor in making fun of people with health problems.


(Art ) #15

My bad. Next time, I’ll help load them load up their cart with more soda and cookies and then happily write the check for their $1,000,000 diabetes bill through the taxes we will all be paying.

Nope - I’m mad as hell and you should be too. There are too many and this game of “big and beautiful” is another of the BIG LIES.

Not only that when they meet on bbpeoplemeet.com (an actual site) or during the free donuts at Krispy Kream day and have babies, those kids are f’d for life via epigenetics.

Nope - I’m mad as hell and you should be too.


#16

Seriously???


(Art ) #17

Yes. And no offense should be taken by ex fat scooter users now in recovery. AKA ketosis. :grin:


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #18

This wasn’t an apology to anybody, it was a rant about and making fun of obese people. Where do you think you are? On a site where people are trying to get healthy. You’re preaching to the choir and nobody has to be mad about anything. Stop trying to incite a fat hating riot.


(hottie turned hag) #19

@ArtMeursault
even when you TRY to be nice, you aren’t.


(Lisa) #20

I don’t think he’s trying, I think he’s trolling.