All things in moderation...NOT!


(Jason Webb) #1

Ok so I’ve had several conversations lately regarding the topic of moderation, specifically with relation to strictly adhering to the ketogenic WOE. I’ve been debating with friends and family about what I’m doing, and while interest has been sparked, when I express that I do not and will not cheat, I invariably get cautioned. “All things in moderation”. My rebuttal is that I believe that there is a large percentage of us that don’t do well under this type of behavior, myself included. I’m metabolically healthy, and at a comfortable weight. Would a single slice of cake or a lemonade hurt me in the long run? Honest answer is no, it probably would not. But I can admit that I function much better with binary rules. It frees me up to focus on other things. If the carbs are off limits, then they’re off limits. I don’t even have to think about them and I find great peace in that. I know from past experience that if I would allow myself the occasional treat, say once a month, it would turn into once a week, once every other day, etc. I’ve yet to come across the mythical carbohydrate deficiency, so I’ll continue to operate under my current methods.

This is not a condoning of those who choose to take the occasional day or meal off. IF you can handle it, more power to you. I personally don’t think that I handle it well, and choose to stick to my keto ways.


(Michelle) #2

Totally agree with you. The body wants what the body gets. If you allow yourself a little sugar, it opens up the flood gates for more sugar. I am so much better if I just say no sugar/carbs and stick to that. All my friends hate me, and I could care less.


(Stickin' with mammoth) #3

You don’t owe anybody any explanation. It’s none of their bloomin’ business what you do with your body.

My technique is to be a gorgeous enigma. If people comment on how great I look, I say, “Thanks.” If they ask what’s changed, I say, “My mind.” If they ask for specifics, I tell them, “I found what works for me.” Wait until you reeeaaallly know a person before you bring up the idea of mainlining bacon grease and butter with them. Vett the converts.


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#5

Ugh I hate that phrase. I used to hear it all the time when I was pre WLS. You just need to eat everything in moderation. Yeah, right. OK. Then I have the op and have to put up with post WLSers saying but I can eat everything in moderation. AAAARRRGGHHH! No you can’t. Some people can but you can’t!


(Stickin' with mammoth) #6

Everything in Moderation, Including Moderation


(Larry Lustig) #7

Ask them if that applies to rat poison as well.


(Jo Lo) #8

Tell a koala bear to eat everything in moderation, rather than just eating eucalyptus leaves. (It will kill them).

I mention this because people evolved to eat only certain things too.


(Michael Iafrato ) #9

Moderation for me has been maybe 1 bite since WLS. And even then it’s not always good.


(Ross Daniel) #10

I hate it when people tell me this. I also hate it when someone tells me the best way to eat is a “balanced diet”. Balanced for whom exactly?


#11

Yeah exactly. Total pants.


(Dustin Cade) #12

I’ve got a coworker that’s like she can eat anything I want in moderation… she knows about keto, most of my coworkers know about my diet, I’ve lost almost 60lbs… the running joke is diabetes, and Wilfred Brimley is the mascot… it’s not really a laughing matter… but what can you do?


(Jamie Hayes) #13

“I find total abstinence far easier than perfect moderation.”

Apparently by St Augustine 6th Century


(Genevieve Biggs) #14

Does this include poison oak? If everything is in moderation, I sure need to be smoking or eating crap like poison oak. :angry:


(Stickin' with mammoth) #15

They also say everything all natural is safe. Rattlesnakes are all natural. So is carbon dioxide. Just sayin’.


(Arlene) #16

True, true, true. Indeed a HIGH percentage of people neither have the brain or the body to manage “moderate” consumption of highly addictive refined carbohydrate foods. Like you, many of us lucky people have learned to just kick them out of our lives altogether. Living without carbs is sooooooooo much easier than trying to manage sticking to a few carbs, at least in my case.
I want to also mention that I appreciated your comment about fasting too. Fasting seems to be popular with many Ketoers, but the fact is that many of us have distorted emotions regarding food. For me, the thought of fasting equals self punishment. The beauty of being ketogenic is that I’m not hungry for many hours between meals, sometimes even 24 hours. I know this is considered IF, but don’t tell my brain that or I start feeling anxiety. I just call it eating when I’m hungry. No stress, no worries.


(Bart) #17

Well kinda. Arsenic is found in all sorts of foods we eat…

http://www.prevention.com/food/healthy-eating-tips/foods-and-beverages-high-arsenic

:sunglasses:


(Richard Morris) #18

A very small amount of Arsenic is an essential micronutrient.


(Bart) #19

I was referencing the above post that said what about rat poison in regards to moderation. My point was, yes even rat poison in moderation is not bad. Kinda trying to make a funny. :grin:


#20

Totally agree with you. I started keto first time about 4 years ago and looked at it as a diet. I can’t have this, I can’t have that, etc. It was all ok in the beginning, I had enough will power to avoid everything carb filled, but 3 months down the line, seeing the scales dropping numbers, clothes that suddenly were fitting and a surge of energy later, I would close my eyes to a bite here of pasta, a piece of cake for a birthday, a burger and fries at the end of the week. These happened far apart and they didn’t harm the weightloss, but the first time I got weak, I turned to that one cheat meal, which turned into a cheat weekend and so on, to the point of falling off the wagon and literally gaining all the weight I had put off and some more :confused :confused:
Now I re-started keto late last August, I’m down 78lbs and counting! I have approached keto from a totally different angle. This is not a weightloss diet, but a lifestyle. If I have to cheat, I’ll eat that extra keto meal a day, or go over board with the calories, but I won’t turn to carbs. I don’t believe in carb resets or one cheat day a week/month. Why should I stop doing something that is working? Why should I submit my body to keto flu?
So my things in moderation are eating healthy, keeping on track and that’s it.