Advice needed: Fasting with lean body mass?


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #21

Many folks report they experience various things after starting keto: more energy, more mental alertness and/or less ‘brain fog’. Many don’t. It’s important to realize this and not expect these and similar subjective experiences will necessarily happen to you, then assume if you do not experience them you’re not in ketosis. For example, if you’ve been a very active person all your life and remained physically fit, you’re not necessarily going to feel ‘more energy’.

If you don’t eat carbs, as in fasting, for a couple of days, then you are in ketosis. In fact, depending how many carbs you consume on any specific day and the time you last ate, you could be in ketosis by the time you awaken in the morning or by the time of your first food. When I was a child in the 50s, going 12-14 hours between supper and breakfast was the norm. Almost everyone ate that way, consequently many/most people were in ketosis by breakfast without noticing. That’s why it is called ‘break fast’.

Whether you felt ‘any different’ or not, a 70 hour fast gets you into ketosis. And probably within the first 24 hours.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #22

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Please note that the above is grams of fat per minute! At 9 calories each.

These are quite interesting. Most of us are not athletes, but the folks pushing the envelope are learning stuff that benefits the rest of us as well.



(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #23

FASTER: The chart below from FASTER shows the data points of the two cohorts. As you can see the high carb cohort fat oxidation rate data is consistent with the Venables data (my previous post just above), thus is consistent with the existing body of science. Examining the data points between the two charts it is evident the high carb cohort of FASTER were actually on the upper level of conventional fat oxidation capability. On the other hand the low-carb/fat-adapted cohort was on a completely different level. The mean fatty acid oxidation rate was OVER twice the rate of the high carbohydrate cohort and the lowest rate of fat oxidation in a subject being 1.1 grams/minute which is higher than what the current published literature suggests is possible with one subject actually recording a rate of 1.8 grams /minute of fatty acid oxidation!

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