75 Percent Fat


(Elya) #1

Hello, I am new here and have been doing Keto for 5 days. It looks as if I have a small amount of ketones going after I tested them with Keto strips.

Question: I can’t seem to figure out how I get fat to 75 percent of my calories. I use Cronometer and I have never thought of calories like that. How do I calculate this? What would be an example day? I think I need more fat and less protein.


(TJ Borden) #2

IN MY OPINION (disclosure so I don’t get accused of being a bully again)…

You just hit on one of the major flaws with focusing on macros. The 75% target is based on fat from your plate AND fat from your body. Since there’s no way to know for sure (without pretty intensive testing in a chamber everyday) how much fat you’re pulling from storage, there’s really no way to effectively chase macros, or as an extension, calories.

Don’t fear protien. I’d recommend sticking to the basics:

  • 20 grams or less of carbohydrates
  • moderate protein scaled to lean body mass
  • fat to satiety

Use the chronometer to learn where hidden carbs are as you learn which foods to eat and which to avoid. OR, you can get the same info here:


#3

What @Baytowvin said. If you need to add more fat you can use butter, mayo, olive oil among other things to add a little more fat to your food. Also choose fattier cuts of meat like chicken thighs over breasts.

It’s most important to keep carbs low and don’t restrict your food. Eat when you are hungry.


(Consensus is Politics) #4

if You want to balance your macros out (I’m with @Baytowvin, I don’t even try) just look for the simple things that add fat. HWC in your coffee. Or just drink some HWC. It makes a really rich drink. Add a little sweetener and it’s delicious. And it is packed with calories. My morning coffee, with butter and HWC is about 500 calories. All fat.

Food wise… bacon, don’t waste the juice. Don’t over cook it. Seriously, try to it eat the British way. Barely heat it up :rofl:. I’m serious, every time I ate bacon there it was barely cooked.

Then there is of course avocado. I like to have mine with a bunch of salt on it. Slit it in half, and it comes in its own bowl.

Then there is pork belly. 75% fat, 25% protein. I’ve been eating it almost everyday for the past couple of months. I was sure it was going to get old. But it hasn’t yet. And it is delicious. :yum:


(TJ Borden) #5

YES!!!

SWEET JESUS, YES!!! The perfect food. Nearly impossible to screw up cooking it, delicious in every way.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #6

Remember that one gram of fat contains about 9 calories, whereas one gram of protein or carbohydrate contains around 4. So it may take less fat than you’ve been thinking.

Also, we recommend fat to satiety, not to some arbitrary percentage. The advantage to this is that you no longer need to calculate calories or percentages, and you can let your body tell you when it’s had enough. Eat till you’re no longer hungry, then stop. Wait till you’re hungry again before eating again, don’t go by the clock. Your body will respond to this caloric abundance by increasing your metabolism and starting to let go of its extra fat, and your appetite will adjust itself to the appropriate level for burning off both dietary and stored fat.


(Jake Liddell) #7

Being British, I like my bacon… crispy! :grinning:

But once it’s done, I cook my scrambled eggs in the fat - means you still eat the fat, and the eggs taste great too!


(Consensus is Politics) #8

There was a time that the bacon there really put me off. I used to like my bacon crispy and dry. I would use paper towels to leech as much grease out of it as I could.

Now I pretty much cook it as little as possible. Just until parts begin to brown just a little, leaving it very limp, and full of as much of that grease as possible :cowboy_hat_face:


(Consensus is Politics) #9

Just out of curiosity. Are you a Ludwig fan?

I became enthralled with his music in the mid 1980’s. Two very unlikely things came together to instigate this. The first was a book I read, “Everything I need to know I learned in Kindergarten” (can’t remember the author). In that book the author mentioned the 9th Symphony, and how glorious the fourth movement was. I remember thinking, “I should find this and add to my eclectic collection of LP’s. Perhaps I could find a half speed master recording.

Then, that very same day, I saw “A Clockwork Orange”. That movie was disturbing. I began to notice that the main character was heavily into Ludwig (ok, it’s actually a plot point). I found this intriguing that twice in one day, I was led to the same piece of music by two, diametrically opposed, personalities.

The next day I went looking. I couldn’t find an LP. But I did find an audio cassette. It was the London Philharmonic. I was blown away. Especially the fourth movement.

It’s one of the few items I now have in my iTunes collection. Ludvig sits snugly between Cheap Trick at Budokan Live, and Pink Floyd’s the Wall. Indeed, eclectic.


(Ken) #10

You’re fine as long as dietary fat is at least 60 percent. The important thing is to keep carbs as low as possible, even none at all.

During initial adaption, if you experience energy balance issues, eat more fat.


(TJ Borden) #11

I used to be. I was a music education major in college. I set up an email account using BAYTOWVIN as a way of sending a joke a day to the music department anonymously. All of the other emails and screen names came and went, but I’ve used this one ever since.

Fun fact: did you know Beethoven wasn’t actually deaf through his career? He had normal hearing when he was young and it diminished as he got older. By the time he died, he was mostly deaf, but never completely, as so widely believed… okay “fun” may have been overstated.


(Consensus is Politics) #12

I knew he gradually lost his hearing, but as you said, I only ever heard he went completely deaf, sometime while composing one of his symphonies.

Was probably someone wanting to boost Ludwig Vons popularity, trying to artificially make him better than he was (not that it was even needed).

My top three, Ludvig, Dvorak (pronounced “Voorshack” I beleive) and Wagner (Vagner(?))

Handel too. Love me some Fireworks Music.


(Running from stupidity) #13

Isn’t it always? #philosophy101


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #14

“De Vorzhack” is close enough, for people who don’t speak Czech, and Rickard Vagner, for those who don’t speak German. We pretentious classical music lovers tend to want to overdo the “accurate” pronunciations, and sometimes end up making ourselves ridiculous. As Dr. Johnson said (at least, I believe it was he), “A little learning is a dangerous thing.”