3 Year Keto, but gaining back weight fast

[HelenM]

I think that’s supposed to be $81 per week, not $18

That’s what I was thinking

[Don_Q]

I even started running 3 times a week, but nothing is helping

How long have you been running? Also, how long have you been drinking whey shakes? Whey shakes plus 2 cups of cheese a day plus 200ml of heavy whipping cream could cause problems for a lot of people.

Running won"t solve that problem, but it could totally scramble your satiety signals and increase cortisol if its a new stress.

It might be worth dropping the dairy for a couple weeks to see what happens. Maybe the running too, unless you enjoy it.

[EZB]

Yes. 81 is very cheap

[FrankoBear]

I switched to heavy protein and lowered fat intake and still managed to maintain my weight.

Body weight is a poor measure alone on which to base health. Are you gaining muscle with shifting to a body building version of keto? How do your clothes fit? Have you had to let out your belt a few notches? What are your blood tests telling you?

[Iced]

I would stay away from anything that is shake like or has whey in it. My guess is that if you got rid of the shake you would start losing again.

The question is are you willing to give it up for a month as a n=1 experiment? If you aren’t then the shake is ultimately more important than the weight loss, which is fine but you are making a choice.

Lots of people have reported that the shakes are a problem on the forum.

[atomicspacebunny]

My ketones usually are at 0.5mmlo and won’t go higher on a keto diet no matter what I do. I decided to fast for 3 days to see what happened. On the second day of fasting, my ketones were 0.7mmlo and at the third day I was at 1.2mmlo and felt amazing, better than being on keto. The hunger is torture, but energy and the way I felt was amazing.

Your ketones look normal for some one who has been doing this for three years, that is what they should be, they are not going to get any higher because your brain is actually using them as fuel, so they are not going to be floating around in your blood or urine.

The most likely reason your not losing weight is because your leptin resistant; if your T3 levels are higher than they should be? Even if your thyroid lab tests appear to be ‘normal” get a second opinion[3].

I would try incorporating more leptin reset foods[2] into my Ketogenic menu? (try soil based probiotics instead of that health food store mass produced Petri dish stuff, it is worthless and does not survive the digestion process and passes right through the intestinal tract, in my opinion)

Bottom line, you periodically need more carbohydrates until you can heal your thyroid? (that is why you are getting so hungry)

Resources:

[1] Test Your Thyroid Function at Home

[2] Hypothyroidism Diet + Natural Treatment

[3] How to Properly Test Thyroid Function with Labs

[4] Hypothyroidism can interfere with absorption of this important nutrient. Thiamine (or vitamin B1) is one of many B-complex vitamins. …If you have Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, you may not absorb thiamine properly, leading to a deficiency that can exacerbate fatigue, a common symptom of hypothyroidism. …More

[Mandy_De_Fields]

TBH I think you are just way over-consuming the cheese and cream and the protein shake probably isn’t helping. Try two months without those three things and see what happens.

[Gilberto_Contreras]

I have not been gaining muscle, actually my clothes are getting tighter. It is just getting uncomfortable putting on my skinny clothes.

[Gilberto_Contreras]

I can leave the shake as I prefer to eat real food. I actually don’t drink them often. I would drink the shake twice a week maximum. Its just a back up when I need something quick

[Gilberto_Contreras]

This is a typical meal for me. Pork, Bacon, Chicken, Tilapia, and or any other protein meat.
The veggies tend to be the same.

[Carissa]

Have you been drinking any alcohol? Several months ago it didn’t affect my weight
or my ketosis, But then I began to gain. So I had to give up my evening drinks. Im happy to say I am back in ketosis

[FrankoBear]

I have not been gaining muscle, actually my clothes are getting tighter. It is just getting uncomfortable putting on my skinny clothes.

That’s no good. What do your blood tests tell you? Including home testing. How is your fasting blood glucose? And your 2 hour after meal blood glucose after eating a typical meal?

[Karim_Wassef]

I don’t see a lot of fat there and the calories don’t look very high…

If you don’t eat enough, your body starts to reduce your metabolism.

If you also don’t move enough, it doubles down on a lower metabolism.

Everything slows down, including any weight loss momentum.

[karen2019]

I’m curious, was the alcohol sugar containing? Initially I lost about 4 lbs (didn’t really need to lose, but was happy with that all the same), then 9 months in and more Keto than I started, I’ve gained a total of 6 lbs so up a net 2 lbs. its frustrating me. I do drink dry white wine in the evening, and not the perfect female 4 oz glass. I’ve been wondering if this has been affecting me.

[Alecmcq]

The hunger is torture

My opinions and thoughts:

1. If you get really hungry during fasts, you don’t sound fat adapted.
2. The meal you show us looks like low fat to me
3. You’ve mentioned mozzarella and cream as the only fat you are eating?
4. Have you measured your carbs? How many grams per day?
5. What was your regime when you lost weight first time round? How much were you eating?
6. Do you know what your body fat would be? If you are big framed, and 6’4”, 260lbs may be where your body wants to be.
7. How many meals a day are you eating?
8. It is possible that you may have lowered your metabolism by surviving on lower than required calories for a long time losing weight to 240lbs (The Fastest Loser Complex). Your pattern and your current eating supports this theory.
9. I would up your fat, remove the veg, drop protein shakes. And make sure you are eating to satiety and no further.

[Gilberto_Contreras]

I don’t drink really, I tend to avoid it at all cost. If I had to give you a number of drinks I would say 1-2 light beers a month or Sparkling water with Tequila. Again I drink only socially, so I don’t drink often. Thanks for the help.

[Gilberto_Contreras]

1)I am used to fasting for an entire day its only when I do longer than one day. Normally by day two my body get hungry.

2)The meal is not fatty like I should be eating on a Keto diet. I tend to add cheese to it and/or mayonnaise to up the fat.

3. I tend to use those as my main sources.

4)I tend to do a lazy Keto as I roughly count carbs. I tend to be around 30g of carbs. Some times my carb intake can go all the way to 50g of carbs. I try to stay within 30g of carbs. (My size and weight I would say 30g of carbs are ok for me)

5)When I started I ate in my opinion unbalanced. I would eat a lot of eggs and I mean a lot compared to what I eat now. I would just eat a ton of fat such as butter, MCT OIL, Cheese, HWC, and more meat than what I eat now.

I would go to In & Out and eat 8 patties which kept me full and still does. I currently measure my meals and at the beginning, I just ate until I was full.

I would eat until I was full every single time. That was easy because of all the fat I was consuming. I would be satiated every time as the fat kept me full. Now I get hungry after 3 hours from eating my first meal. (Lunch)

As I lost weight I started incorporating more Veggies lowering my fat intake as I wanted my body to burn the fat in my body, not the fat I was consuming as I was starting to stall. My Ketones were not high anymore and I struggled with getting them higher.

In total, I lost 80 pounds in the first 7-8 months until I had a cheat meal of a month. After that I really stalled. I am close to 270lbs from my lowest of 240lbs. (30 pounds gained in less than 2 years!)

6. I don’t know

7. I tend to eat Lunch and Dinner with Snacking in between such as a Costco Low carb protein bar, Salami, Cheese, and Nuts.

8. Possibly as I started cutting back as the more I stalled.

9. I agree I am planning to go on a Carnivore diet as of 4/8/2019 to see if cutting Veggies, Nuts, Artificial Sugars helps. I will be choosing to eat fattier meat cuts such as beef which to me is a luxury as a student on a budget. With so much food I will be cutting back I believe the beget is there.

I will start the Carnivore diet with Chicken Wings, Bacon, and Ground Beef 70/30 as that is what I have stocked in my fridge at the moment. Chicken Wings are not as bad as they have a similar Fat to Protein ratio. I will be eating until I have become satiated like I did when I first started keto.

Let me know if this is a good start as I think that cutting and lowering my carbs further should help from what I understood from the replies.

[Gilberto_Contreras]

Also want to add that my blood type is O+ and I have been reading that blood type O live better on a Carnivorous Diet. It might help or is just stupid and nothing related.

The Blood Type Diets : Blood Type O

[Alecmcq]

Chicken Wings, Bacon, and Ground Beef 70/30

Sounds perfect keto food and quite inexpensive. Keto food can be cheap if you do it right. Could you add eggs and butter to that list or do you want to go strict carnivore?

I tend to eat Lunch and Dinner with Snacking in between such as a Costco Low carb protein bar, Salami, Cheese, and Nuts.

I think this is the cause of your stall and gain. All the above (perhaps except the salami) are insulin trigger foods in many people. Your carnivore plan looks much better. Also, you could drop the snacking and eat more at meal times?

[Alecmcq]

lso want to add that my blood type is O+ and I have been reading that blood type O live better on a Carnivorous Diet

Gil
I would normally dismiss this kind of stuff as crazy nonsense, but I am type O and read that link, and they just described me perfectly. Maybe there’s something in it.