From an article about getting lower income folks on low carb:
Found this through the Metabolic Mind podcast:
From an article about getting lower income folks on low carb:
Found this through the Metabolic Mind podcast:
My son in law thought that carnivore was very expensive to eat but when I broke it down for him and showed how when you are eating just fatty meat there just isn’t any other junk in your grocery cart. Not buying all of the carby foods and highly processed foods offsets the cost of just buying meats, especially if you get the cheaper cuts.
Dr. Berry even said one time that it would be better to eat lunch meat if that’s all you could afford rather that eat carbs.
I know I’ve seen my grocery bill go down since being carnivore.
The less carbs I eat, the less is my food cost but it’s because I need high protein and carbs can’t satiate me. I still couldn’t afford any cuts of beef, that’s very expensive but there are other meats that work for me. If one has a different situation, it can be much worse. I easily can imagine that someone truly can’t afford carnivore, it’s clearly a thing… But for some of us, it’s as cheap as possible. Whenever I add carbs, I am pretty sure my food cost goes up, maybe not every day but almost. As I still need to eat my animal food on top of that…
I just skimmed the article… OMG those medicine boxes…
But it makes zero sense to me. Well yes, I need high protein So I need to eat fatty protein to begin with and my body gets enough energy from that alone. But others need protein and other nutrients too… You can’t just compare rice with meat! You can’t get much from rice… Sure, energy can be very cheap. If it was just about calories, 200g fat would be enough for me while slowly losing fat. And that’s extremely cheap. But alas I need my nutrients. No matter if I do high-carb or not… And I talked about fat, it’s a cheap energy on low-carb diets too… So one just swaps the rice with fat and energy wise it’s the same, okay, rice have more nutrients but not by much I think… We still need to add the expensive good protein. I did it on vegetarian high-carb just the same (and it was mostly good animal fatty protein… I feel odd if I too drastically change my woe so it’s good that my old vegetarian diet has so much common with my current low-carb/carnivore-ish. the best, tastiest, most important part is similar - not the same as now I depend on meat a lot but I kept my eggs and dairy).
If I compare diets, carnivore vs whatever, I basically eat what I need on both - and I add carbs (extra cost) on the higher-carb one and if that makes me hungrier or uncontrolled, I need to add more protein and fat as well. Even in the best case, the carbier diet tends to be more expensive for me. In the exceptional case, I can pull off a carbier, less protein rich day but it’s very occasional and surely wouldn’t work for days on row. But it’s me, I know my SO couldn’t afford low-carb but he couldn’t even do it to begin with. He needs more calories and carbs satiate and satisfy him very well and he is thriving on his diet. Each to their own, I always say. His diet isn’t super cheap either as he needs his animal protein too. By the way, grains aren’t cheap at all nowadays. Or fruits or most vegs. But we can buy cheaper items from nearly every groups. Protein tends to be pricier but we need it and it’s not that bad if we choose well.
It doesn’t even matter so much if one needs way more food as the protein need doesn’t go up so much (compared me me, at least. it must be super cheap to need only 50-60g protein on most diets, alas I can’t do even 100… I would need lots of EF and fat fast day to pull off a lowish number. my average is 140-150 on the best weeks. that’s why my food cost isn’t smaller than my SO’s despite he needs way more food - but way less protein. it’s not because he eats high-carb and I eat low-carb, even my meat intake doesn’t make a difference).
I wouldn’t call cheese so expensive but indeed, we shouldn’t live on it. But who does that?
I still think the most expensive “normal” (not special luxurious) things by far are carbs. We spend money and potentially get nothing good for it, it’s pointless. Some carbs are better than others but most of them are a way worse deal than some decent carni food. My current cheese costs as much as pork and it’s denser, richer than the latter, I don’t see it expensive. Yes, rice is cheaper but the two is totally not comparable. When I compare food prices, I usually look at the protein content first and foremost as that is the inevitably pricier and highly important part, carb/fat calories are cheap to get as I wrote before…
The cheapest food is split peas, hands down. Satiating, edible mostly alone (I don’t like it but survival isn’t about joy), has lots of protein (well I better eat it with gluten to completing it IF I drop most of my animal protein but I don’t even want to think about such an apocalyptic situation)… I don’t need to use it when I have, like, $4-5 per day for food as that allows all the good meat I want (the cheaper ones, sure but I like those) but if I had $2 or something… I probably would prefer a quick death there, I really hate giving up my usual level of enjoyment from my diet. I never changed my woe if it went lower. Thankfully, leaving out carbs just made it better and better. I love the richness of carni food. (I still fancy some carbs here and there but it doesn’t get better most of the time, I just sratch some inch, indulge my curiosity or nostalgy…)
For people who needs low-carb to be healthy and feel fine, money shouldn’t be an excuse. In most cases, at least, there are extremely poor people in the world who truly have no choice. Food availability is there too. There are quite many countries and very different situations around the world, not just everyone can decide to do carnivore. The article talked about homeless, well I bet our homeless people don’t have the option. Well most of them as some has a job and whatnot, some may still have money just not a place but if we consider the normal ones… And it’s not even a 3rd world country… Maybe people don’t tend to think about those but I do. Poor people there may not afford much carbs either.
But for normal people in more developed countries, even in the poorer ones? They spend money on unnecessary, unhealthy, overpriced things. They easily spend way less on a smart low-carb diet, even without losing enjoyment though it depends, we may cling to things that require a lot of time and/or effort to make low-carb… But some good steps would do good for so many… Nearly everyone I suppose. And people shouldn’t complain about food prices when they just spend half of their food money on stupid treats or extremely overpriced drinks…