What's your ZC plan?

[Jodi]

I swear I am not obsessive-compulsive, even though this list looks like it.

This made me

I am not eating more than a cup of food at a time or drinking anything too fast in an effort to keep from stretching my stomach because I read somewhere on here that stomach pressure increases insulin response.

I hadn’t heard that before, interesting and definitely something I’ll keep in mind. I try to practice “no longer hungry, but not Thanksgiving full” already. I wonder if that’s where it came from? I heard it somewhere years ago, I think maybe Atkins? I don’t know for sure.

I am not tracking. I love the not tracking with ZC! I do usually note what I’ve eaten, but may stop doing that because really it doesn’t matter

THIS!

I do take supplements because I am incredibly fearful of the horrifying leg cramps I’ve gotten in the past. I’d love to try to wean off them someday but anytime I’ve tried I get fluttering in the legs and start getting worried.

I don’t blame you. I was never a supplement person until recently. Now I have no intention of stopping them any time soon. I was walking around like a zombie for awhile there and a good quality set of vitamins and some research later I feel 100% better.

[jamestorie]

I agree with you, the coffee with cream is the only thing from keeping me doing a month with only beef and water. I’d like to see if it makes that big of a difference. I just need to quit drinking coffee! I too would like to get back into fasting, but I want it to be completely natural! No thought of how long I’ve fasted, just don’t eat until it’s time.

[Jodi]

I occasionally have quit coffee, and will even drink it black sometimes. The cream really helps me feel like I’m not “missing out”…which is totally a mental thing, but there you go. It’s staying for now.

I agree about the fasting. My past experiences indicate I’ll eventually get there, but right now I’m not close.

[jamestorie]

I like it black too, but it has to be good! The problem is I’m a truck driver, and the coffee quality isn’t always great!

[Jodi]

Sometimes salt can help with that. Restaurants rarely have true cream in my experience, so I’ll salt it just to help cut the bitterness. It doesn’t make it delicious lol, but makes it drinkable.

[roxanna]

Hopefully I didn’t write this already, but I did a modified 30 days with beef only and 1 coffee with cream a day. I made it 26 days before I needed something other than beef!!!

[Jodi]

That’s awesome!
Just beef would probably get old for me, I really like chicken too.

[roxanna]

Yes I definitely missed chicken and had lamb the other day for the first time in 2 months and it was extra delicious.

[justme]

The chicken causes me too much of an insulin reaction for me and then it messes up everything else.

[KetoLikeaLady]

I think this might be the case for me too. Last night I had wings for dinner. I made 8 drummettes, but if I had made more, I would have eaten them all. Steak is the most satiating for me.

[Ijjunne]

I am not eating more than a cup of food at a time or drinking anything too fast in an effort to keep from stretching my stomach because I read somewhere on here that stomach pressure increases insulin response.

IMO, the problem with this approach is that you need to eat more often, which results in more frequent insulin responses. It defeats the purpose of this practice. I find it more effective to eat to satiety less often.

[Teresa_Driver]

If I were eating less fatty foods, this would absolutely be a problem. Thank you so much for pointing this out .
I am one of those weird birds that will eat butter straight off a spoon. Or a tablespoon of butter smeared on a single hamburger patty. Or you know just whole spoonfuls of mayo. When you’re eating that kind of thing, satiation comes real fast. YMMV.

[Jodi]

I love to just eat a Tbsp of butter at a time. Really helps me with cravings…or a big spoonful of homemade mayo.

[Jodi]

I make my wings with all 3 segments attached and gnaw on all of them for awhile.
It takes me some time to work through a half dozen wings and I think that helps my satiety with them. I always feel like I’m sitting down to a feast.
My husband always laughs at me because of it, but he inhales all his meals which I think is a worse idea.

[BobW]

For me, chicken seems to be the ZC equivalent of “rice” on the SAD diet. Eat some and I’m hungry again an hour or two later. Beef seems to provide the most long term satiety, with pork somewhere in between.

[KetoLikeaLady]

I make my wings with all 3 segments attached and gnaw on all of them for awhile.

Want to hear something hilarious? I didn’t realize until THIS WEEK that when you order wings at a restaurant and they give “flats” and “drums,” that the drum is actually a PART of the wing…my whole life, I thought the drums were just really small chicken legs. I never understood why they still called them “wings,” but I just figured - whatever, marketing people are lazy.

So, I went to the store trying to find just drums (because I like them better than the flats), and I see these packages of chicken drumsticks, but they’re HUGE! I’m sitting here staring at the package thinking - man oh man, what are they feeding these birds? The drumsticks are GIANT!!

So, I buy a package of whole wings and cook them up and as I’m eating them, I realize…wait a minute…this wing has a drum…ATTACHED to it??? All of a sudden, the lightbulb goes off and I realize…I’ve lived 34 years not knowing this information.

WOMP WOMP. The good news is that now that I know what to look for and I found a package of “drumettes” at the grocery store.

TL;DR Wings fly, legs walk, both are edible.

[onlyjeffdavis]

I didn’t realize until THIS WEEK that when you order wings at a restaurant and they give “flats” and “drums,” that the drum is actually a PART of the wing…my whole life, I thought the drums were just really small chicken legs.

That’s awesome. I find humor in our little blind spots.

[MelTar]

Me too.