One of my closest friends has promised (threatened) to take me clothes shopping once I hit weight & health targets, she even has a list of what she’ll buy me (yes it’s her “treat” to me), so what (if anything) is almost enough to make at least think of quitting keto (but not really). I loathe the thought of going clothes shopping / having a mini make over but will endure if needed after getting healthy & happy.
Fyi, I don’t plan on ever going back to SAD.
What is almost (but not really) enough to make you quit keto?
I know this isn’t your question, but if your friend really wants to support the New You, why don’t you ask her for a different present? Go skydiving! Get a massage! Check out an Emo Phillips concert! I think your personal transformation needs to be just that, Personalized.
ETA: What could make me quit keto? Possibly a month with my mother in law. Or my own mother, for that matter. When I think of a month of ceaseless diet advice / bullying / guilt / disapproval that sounds like the Martians in Mars Attacks, I can see cowering in the kitchen with a shield made out of a gigantic pizza to avoid any more confrontation.
I’ll do it because it’s what she wants, she’s super supportive of new keto me and knows I hate shopping but wants to help make me the best me I can be, she thinks/knows that decent clothes will benefit me, also she wants me to show off the new me. Tbh I can’t think of anything that would actually make me go non keto, although time with my Mum would come close.
It’s awesome to have someone so supportive. I can understand why you want to let her give if it makes her feel good. I just hope you are owning your new sense of self-authority as well.
Ellen, many things, actually - in that I do quit for a day or two, here and there. It definitely stops progress and even reverses some of it, so I can’t recommend this practice, but it is sustainable in the long term for me. Whether we say it’s having a relatively large amplitude in our adherence, or doing periodic metabolic recompensation, or just being the same old crazy nut I’ve always been, I’ve settled into it and don’t plan on really going back to SAD, either.
As someone who just had my 92 year old sugar addict mother over for lunch today I can only agree 5000%
Yup. MIL is full of contempt and scorn for anything other than the HCLF advice she learned in 1980, and Mom just wants mirroring validation and reassurance that her colon cancer, ovarian cancer, possible pancreatic cancer, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, rising BG and heart problems have nothing to do with the “good” bread and cookies and chocolate and cereal and processed food, all Low Fat, so “good”, that she eats every day. (Which she attempts to accomplish by ceaselessly forcing food on me that I don’t want and calling me willful and silly and rude and a “know it all” when I won’t eat it.)
I plan to temporarily drop out of keto mimicking seasonal changes but, always return. I use the Paleo mindset, I do not think historically people ignored the fresh fruit and starchy vegetables in the middle of summer (it is always dangerous to hunt animals, so the safe source of food would in fact, probably be favored). Instead, they would grab them up for some quick energy while running around doing things (as well as fattening to get through winter). In winter, when they were holed up in some cave (I assume fairly inactive other than hunting), they had little or no access to the summer’s bounty – just keto and maybe even some unexpected fasting (and they’d burn bodyfat for months).
I think (just my opinion) that being out of keto for a while and reintroducing it is beneficial. Not talking about donuts and ice cream – still mostly whole foods. I also think it is better for long term compliance – a fall off the wagon for someone trying to stay 100% keto all the time may end it forever. Someone that actually plans some stops and starts might be more likely restart and, I think, less likely to “burn out”.
It also fits with my longer-term world view. Many years ago I went to France and that trip made sure that I want to do another trip to France. When I go to spend a month or two in France and some other parts of Europe, I am not going to tell whatever woman I am with that I want to stay away from the wonderful set-menu restaurants, Oktoberfests and famous bakeries etc. (“you go alone, and I’ll eat sausage in the hotel room” = fail!). But, you can be sure I’ll put myself through a deep winter before and after the trip.
Every day that I weigh and am still stuck I think, forget it. I like vegetarian cuisine better AND I might lose weight. Plus am caring for my poor dad. Mom makes meals that are not keto, but is trying to support my weight loss. So every day I want to quit.
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You never know, maybe the “old” you hated clothes shopping and getting makeovers, but the “new” you will enjoy it. Nothing like a new bod to make clothes shopping more fun! It’s great you have someone so supportive, even if it’s a little stifling.
Boredom is my Achilles heel.
And after low carbing - keto - currently carnivore for decades, I sometimes find the boredom overwhelming.
But then I have a reminder of how crap I feel if I stray, and climb wearily back onto the wagon.
(TMI) fainting due to debilitating menstrual cramps. Those first couple of days i may have some kind of carb refeed, since, keto or not, it seemed to help with pain to a degree on top of me feeling weak af no matter how good my nutrition is. Next days I find it hard to quit carbs and contemplate quitting keto all together. But that’s because every time I attempted keto it coincidentally happened during pmsing. I have finally enough time to become fat adapted before the next one for which I hope keto will act therapeutically for, so maybe this won’t be a reason in the near future!
Nothing will make me quit, except becoming a victim of over orchestration, and a focus on supplementation that becomes unsustainable.
That includes over thinking it. It’s all been pretty doable and kept simple.
Roar!
Karen, would it be so terrible to switch to a clean vegetarian diet-- no processed foods-- while you’re going through this stressful period? Or even vegetarian keto, which is hard but doable?
Nothing. Ever. Till I’m a pile of ashes
Lost my mother to diabetes 24 yrs ago, all 6 of us kids are diabetic - correction - have been diabetic at some point. Three of us are in remission - 2 keto, and one got sick and lost 25% body weight, as well as cured diabetes and hypertension. 2 still on insulin. 6th on oral medications.
Now that I have learned of the secret sauce - how can I ever unlearn it? The change in my life is so dramatically for the better, it’s unthinkable for me to ever devolve - it would be willful suicidal behavior.
What are my “cheats”?
1- Liquor - me likely!
2- Diet soda - me likey!
3- Indian Tangra Chinese style chili chicken (lightly breaded, then deep fried then prepared) yeah - about once a month or so when in Toronto
4- ummmmm (insert mac spinning wheel here)
I just don’t think of the usual culinary criminals as food anymore. Sugar, grains, fruits n roots - just have no appeal - if anything - disgust.
My SO is keto with me and I can’t even talk to her like this because she doesn’t share my extreme view.
I guess N=1 is true for many things
Inertia and lack of goals. That’s what has screwed me up in the past. I get comfortable, there’s carb creep, and without a direction to go, I cannot marshall myself. As noted scholar and occasional baseball player Alex Rodriguez once said, “You either go one way or the other.”
I would have said time with my parents. But I recently spent about five days with them, with a three day road trip in the middle, and was maybe the best ketonaut I’ve ever been.
A link to an increase in Alzheimer’s risk would probably make me rethink things.
Talk to your friend. She’s trying to help. There’s probably something she could do that might work better. That said, I got goofy happy buying new pants. And this isn’t the last set of pants. This is midstage new pants.