What Do You Think?@?


#1

Ok I am starting this thing again after successfully losing 15lbs earlier this year (then I took a vacation, etc, etc) long story short im back at the beginning, This is what Im eating (havent lost weight yet, but 1.5 weeks in with cheating on the weekend a little):
Breakfast: Advanced Energy Slim Fast
Lunch: Spaghetti Squash and meat sauce (no sugar added sauce) w/parm cheese on top
Dinner: Bunless burger or some sausage, salad OR handful of cubed cheese and pepperoni on a busy night
Snacks: LIGHT string cheese or almonds

What am I doing wrong?


(Mike W.) #2

Lose the shakes. Eat more.


#4

Welcome back! It looks like you need to review keto macro guidelines. I wouldn’t think “keto” if I saw your list of foods out of context of this forum. Can you look around at some of the pinned newbie threads? They’re terrific. (I don’t have time to look now but I think there are plenty of them…)
Many folks find that going off keto for a bit is fine, and others find it a disaster, but I definitely wouldn’t do it in the first few months as you’re trying to adjust and get fat-adapted.


#5

Dang. They are low carb and sugar, thought id get away with something quick and easy :frowning: What would you replace it with?


#6

What makes this not keto? I am just seeing meat, cheese, and veggies in everyone’s posts.


#7

snacks
light cheese
slimfast (I don’t know the breakdown, but I would stick to real food or just coffee with cream)
spaghetti squash (same - I don’t know the carb content, so I could be wrong…)


#8

Ah! so maybe just coffee for breakfast then. Dang! I knew the shake was a little too easy…

Any snack recommendations? (I work constantly so anything easy)


(Jason Christianson) #9

Shakes are terrible. Processed and highly metabolically active - even if they are “lo carb” they are full of junk inflammatory proteins and the sweeteners in them spike your insulin just as bad as sugar.

Need to drive down your insulin levels to have access to fat. That means as long as possible between eating so lose the snacks.

Goal is to get our energy from fat, which has least insulin response of any macro. Therefore anything “low fat” is just worthless junk food. It doesn’t seem like you’re eating enough of anything, especially fat. So if it were me, I’d recommend ditching breakfast all together, to extend that nighttime fast till lunch and maximize the time insulin is low there. Ditch all the snacks and eat bigger lunch and dinner, especially dinner.

Check your carbs on that meat sauce. There might be a lot of carbs. Do you like alfredo sauce? Don’t buy canned crap full of carbs. It takes minutes to make an authentic alfredo sauce from cream, butter and cheese and garlic. I use it on fathead pizza too, yum!!! Otherwise, add a bunch of butter to your squash and meat sauce, minimizing the sauce. Plenty of cheese too. Don’t use the powdery grated cheese either - it’s full of carbs to keep it from caking and adds as a filler so they can put less cheese in the can. Just grate your own.

Just a handful of cubed cheese and pepperoni? That’s not a meal. You need to be satiating yourself enough at lunch (lunch should be biggest meal if you can arrange that with schedule and family - I can’t) and dinner to get through to the next meal without snacking. Again, that energy needs to come from fat, not carbs or an overabundance of protein.

I think once you get used to how rich you really need to eat, getting rid of the junk foods, you’ll have an easier time sticking to it this time. Welcome back!


#10

What Jason said. Also I have had spaghetti squash kick me out of ketosis. A little is fine, a plate, not so much. You are doing great. Get rid of those shakes and add full fat cheeses and you’ll be rockin in no time.


#11

@JasonC covered this beautifully - eat enough at meals so that you don’t need snacks! You don’t want to keep spiking your insulin. (But read his post a few times! lots of good stuff in there)


(KetoQ) #12

Hi Pam –

You should eat more, enough that you feel full and satisfied. I’d advise to get more foods in your diet like:

avocados
sardines + salmon
cottage cheese, full fat
full fat greek yogurt like Fage (I like to add peanut butter to mine)
peanut butter
half and half
salad with a full fat dressing, preferably homemade to keep the sugar content out

Treat yourself to some good, fattier, richer cheeses like brie and camembert. Gouda and Kerrygold are also quality cheeses. Brie and gouda are also high in vitamin k2.

That’s just a start. Check out the recipe section on the forum, it will give you lots of ideas.

Good luck!


#13

Thanks everyone! I guess I’m not used to eating that much fat and it actually being a good thing


(Katie) #14

Whole foods that are protein and fat-rich. Bacon and eggs is a standard suggestion.


(Katie) #15

These are all my recommendations, I am not an expert, but I have been around a while:

  • Even though your lunch has meat sauce, I doubt that it is a enough protein.

  • I highly recommend ditching the shake. I find the ingredients concerning (canola oil, maltodextrin, cellulose gell, cellulose gum, soy lecithin, sucralose, carageenan, to name a few). These are not healthy ingredients and may stall weightloss (I think that that is your goal).

  • Calculate your protein and fat and total calories to make sure that you are getting enough; it seems like they might be low. Having a big caloric deficit over a long period of time can be damaging to your metabolism, and ultimately stall weightloss.

  • Consider swapping the almonds for a higher-fat nut, such as macadamias, pilis, and/or Brazil nuts. Almonds are fine though. This would just help keep the carbohydrate count low.

  • If you are feeling rough, it may be because it seems like your fat is low.


(Katie) #16

In the beginning it can be difficult to go between meals without snacking. Try to push to wait between meals. My snack ideas:

  • Full-fat cheese

  • Macadamia, Brazilian, pili nuts

  • Fat bombs

  • Fatty coffee/beverage

  • Deli meat (check ingredients quality), jerky (check ingredients, many have added sugar/honey)

  • Avocado with salt


(Terence Dean) #17

On Keto you’ll get to love fat, its natural to worry about eating so much fat because of the brainwashing we’ve been taught about food. Too many carbs are the enemy, not fat. Once you read up on the science, you’ll change your way of thinking about fat.

Our bodies have always been able to utilize fat for energy but because we consume so many carbs, it hardly ever gets to do that. So we are training the body to use fat by severely limiting carbs.

Whole foods might be a good way to eat because its easier to work out how many carbs they have.


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #18

At just under 8 net carbs (10.1g) for a cup cooked with salt. it is a good choice, excellent pasta replacement.

OP Fats are your friends. They will keep you from wanting snacks eventually. But if you must:
Macadamia nuts
Pecans
Guacamole with jicama slices
Salsa with pork rinds
Celery with almond butter
Make your own kale chips
Dry salami and cream cheese fat bombs
Pepperoni and hard cheese cubes (not a meal but a nice snack)
Chia seed pudding, vanilla or chocolate (use 100% cocao powder) (This is nice for breakfast or a dessert)

I personally use HWC with some coconut oil frothed, in my coffee most days. Sometimes I don’t bother with the coconut oil. That holds me til lunchtime or beyond.


(Diana ) #19

I’ve only been strictly Keto for three weeks, but had been cutting down on carbs for a while before that. Usually I can have a couple cups of coffee in the morning, with a little stevia in it, and that holds me till round 10:30, when we have bacon or sausage and eggs, then that holds me till supper. All is good; I’ve lost about 6 lbs.
Well, last evening I decided to try a very small glass of wine, probably 2 oz. Tastes good, but not that good. This morning I had to get a fasting blood draw, so I only had one cup of coffee and off I went to the lab. By 8:30 I was starving! I couldn’t believe how hungry I was, till I remembered the wine. Ah, carbs! My system was suddenly wanting more carbs, since I had a few last night.
I got through that episode without giving it more carbs, but I was ready to eat the car interior by the time I got home.
Moral of the story: Don’t eat the carbs, especially by themselves! It’s not worth it!


#20

My understanding is that winter squash, including spaghetti, is fairly carby. Summer squash, like zucchini or crookneck, has fewer carbs.


(Mike W.) #21

Real food. When I started out we made egg cups. Basically eggs in a muffin tin with whatever else you want. We added fat to it by placing a cube of cream cheese in each cup. It also made them delicious!