Water Weight and The Whoosh Effect


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #1

Very interesting article to read!


#2

Thank you for sharing!


(karen) #3

I’m wondering. If you’re doing keto ā€œfat to satietyā€ what does a whoosh-triggering cheat meal look like? Stuffing yourself over satiety with fat, or eating carbs?


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #4

It’s more used to get as many calories in whilst still staying low carb.
When they say cheat meal I don’t think they mean get pancakes with bacon and caramalised banana and all the toppings.
It’s supposed to be a responsible attitude towards eating a heavy calorie laden meal.


(Doug) #5

Kate, good mention there, and it makes sense about the ā€œsquishy fatā€ and water retention and release. :sunglasses:


The one thing I’d take issue with is: ā€œIt will probably surprise you to learn that almost ALL scale movements are the result of fat burn that happened days, or even weeks ago! (Sudden scale movement at the very beginning of a diet is usually the result of water-weight being dropped due to a decrease in carb intake, however).ā€

Less carbs = less water retention, for sure. However, electrolyte balance or just plain old salt intake can make a huge difference - I’d say more than anything else in the short-term. If one’s salt intake and other electrolytes remain very constant, then it need not be a factor, but I would not go nearly so far as to say that ā€œalmost ALL scale movements are the result of fat burnā€ in the past.

Argumentative bugger, I know, but as an extreme example, roughly 40 years ago we were rained out in our masonry contruction/bricklaying job and I sat with my two bosses in a pickup truck, where one boss had a couple bags of little pretzels, 24 oz. or ~680 grams each. In fact, they were called ā€œLittlesā€ due to the small diameter of the strands of the pretzels and their overall small size. This made for a lot more surface area relative to weight than with larger pretzels, and they had a lot of salt on them.

I ended up eating both bags, so ~1360 grams of pretzels, 55 grams of salt or 21.6 grams of sodium, (over 9 times the recommended daily amount right there). Going with the human body being 0.4% salt and 60% water, I figure I’d have to take in 8.2 liters or 18 lbs. of water to maintain the same salt concentration.

I could allmost see my fingers swelling in real time. Don’t know that I gained the full 18 lbs, but the resultant scale change that day dwarfed any other factors, believe me.


(LeeAnn Brooks) #6

I’m one who weighs myself every day. It’s a routine for me. Get up, empty bladder, step on scale… I don’t do it because I’m obsessed over every ounce lost or gained though. I’ve done it every day for years, so I just continued with Keto.

Now I do it because I’m fascinated with the quirkiness of the results with Keto. For instance, I always have a better weigh in te morning after a run day or a day with a lot of physical activity.
I’m chalking that up to the fact that I dehydrate a lot easier than most, so even though I’m constantly trying to get the right electrolyte balance, I still think exercise days dehydrate me more.
I also like comparing it to a bouncing ball. It goes up and down and up and down and up and down… but the ups get gradually lower and the downs get smaller and smaller. So I never fret over the ups any more.
And then every once in a while I see a whoosh. Though it’s always followed by at least a modest up the next day, so I also know not to get all crazy over a whoosh morning either.

All in good time, grasshopper. All in good time.


(karen) #7

Well that’s too bad, isn’t it. :rofl:


(karen) #8

Quite honestly, I place as much ā€˜blame’ on my scale as any digestive process. Sometimes I play around with the scale and really, it’s just an idiot. I can pee and gain weight. I can drink a glass of water and lose a quarter pound. One day the difference between me in pajamas and me naked is a half a pound, the next day with the same pajamas it’s three quarters. I still play the game and get a bit disappointed or inappropriately pleased depending on the number, but the longer I do this, the more I just don’t care.