Vitamin C - survival from cooking

(Elizabeth ) #21

You’ve never posted any sound science that is clinical published trials with a carnivore cohort. here’s a real scientist doing the research and publishing his data. You might learn something here https://youtu.be/T2LpDQkCfq4

(Bunny) #22

Ok I will watch it!

(Elizabeth ) #23

PS my “gurus” as you say are real published researchers and scientists not just faceless random bloggers. I also have nearly 3 years of eating a completely carb plant free diet personally plus extensive blood work and lab tests every 6 months to prove my point.

(Bob M) #24

Though even I wonder what happens to vitamins when cooking. For instance, I sous vide a meat 24 hours. How does that affect it?

I am not a huge fan of vitamin c. I’ve used it as part of a “liver protocol”, to supposedly help my liver, and did not like it. I also have very high Lp(a) and there is a theory that vitamin c lowers Lp(a), though Siobhan Huggins said RCTs don’t show this.

Regardless, I feel bad when I take vitamin c.

(Bunny) #25

That’s exactly what I’m talking about magical things happen then one day your pushing up daisies?

(Elizabeth ) #26

Okay so where’s all the documented proof of this? because I see people having magical results that are still alive and magical 20 years later

(Bunny) #27

I have watched this before and I’m in total agreement with Bikman in that Diabetes is not a glucose problem it is a insulin and glucagon ratio problem.

As Bikman states “…every effort we have made to lower blood glucose ends up killing the patient. …”

#28

gotta say this is one of the worst posts you have written in a while, no wait…

anyway, you need to learn real truths on GNG and this over eating protein is all about glucose and how it functions and more. Your infantile understanding is way off on what you are suggesting truly.

ZC never strives for ‘being in active ketosis’ so that means nothing but somehow you make it something?

balanced diet…what a laugh. It takes no plant toxin allergies into depth, takes no med troubles into effect, takes no healing/body repair aspects need from our food into affect…such a balanced diet does not exist but those willing to ‘bow to the experts’ think it does. wow. On this forum I guess you are the one who ‘makes the balanced’ diet info and only you? On this forum I see everyone’s doing their ‘own’ balanced diet that suits them and they are thriving.

You musta been a vegan at one time I think?

God Bless your little heart bunny.

(Elizabeth ) #29

I find that people who either have such a strong carb addiction that they can’t do carnivore or they don’t quickly get the results they want because they’re not following the advice that has been given out for several decades, tend to be angry and judge everybody else that is successful… And you’re right, who gets to decide what a so-called balanced diet is? That’s a joke

#30

and you won’t be this? you will. Bunny the diet ain’t gonna kill ya, it is the 1 gazillion other things working in tandem in our lives. Come on, even you know this truly. Putting aside the radical menus that don’t give adequate protein and fat/ and can cause true health issues immediately, the only things need for a physical body for survival are protein and fat. The body tells ya yet you still never listen. ugh

#31

the bunny is the expert apparently LOL

but you are right E in that anyone who take on a ‘project like a new eating plan’ and can’t handle it and won’t give it long term will then say it is bunk. Maybe the bunny tried carnivore and couldn’t cut it? Now that makes sense to me. One who is so against something usually could have been a failure at it? You got me thinking on that, thanks. Would explain alot.

(Elizabeth ) #32

Don’t forget water We need water :slight_smile:

#33

Darn right…water is life truly, more important than food!!!

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #34

Ah. While butyrate and β-hydroxybutyrate are related chemicals, they are not the same. Butyrate is not a ketone body. I suppose it is the similarity in name that resulted in the confusion.

(Bunny) #35

Lol been their, done that, I have any kind of meat organ, or glandular of any kind of creature you could think of that exists in the world right around the corner from me even in the midst of this plandemic.

When your aware of what only eating meat is doing to your body it is very unsettling. Bikman is also a proponent of metabolic flexibility so you want to be capable of oxidizing all three substrates equally in the citric acid cycle and acetyl CoA cycle, carbohydrates, dietary fat, body fat and amino acids.

A strictly Amino Acid Metabolism is not ketosis or ketogenic, you could just as well eat refined sugar.

(Elizabeth ) #36

Again, documented proof? In human carnivores?

#37

to you and warped science behind that, yea I get it. Too old to learn new truths I guess?

So wrong I don’t know where to start truly.
I just googled some of this and what you said is just rubbish. Truly.

and you never focus on the big picture but you micro manage all your post on ‘one function’ and one liners but physical life not a ‘one liner’ and it is troublesome in the fact that you seem to always promote the ‘balanced diet’ required which had failed trillions thru the years and yet you hold onto dinosaur thinking about nutrition and what is truly involved. Your way or the highway in the end and many I know ain’t going there with ya cause we find healing and thrive on plans you can’t accept and won’t even bother to open your mind…ahhh, that toxic plant matter ingested is blocking your clarity of thinking maybe?

yes I can use ? also ya know HAHA

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #38

This thread is degenerating into incivility and is now locked.

Here is a message from the original poster, @VirginiaEdie:

Hey Everyone,

The reason I posted the original question is because my father who has some mental health problems and dementia, eats a very poor diet: rice pudding has become his staple.

I believe he has come down with scurvy. I am taking him to the doctor on Monday, but I was trying to think of some vitamin C containing food I could possibly get him to eat that really has vitamin C in it. He eats canned peaches; but, thanks to the helpful links @anon81060937 provided, I believe the vitamin C is processed out of them.

I should have included my reasons for the question. My apologies.

We will not be reopening this thread, but you can reply to @VirginiaEdie in a private message.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) closed #39