Vit C and uric acid


(Vic) #1

Humans cant make their own vitamin c, the genes responsible for that were selected against. The leftovers of those genes are still in our dna but it doesnt work.

Uric acid, mostly concidered a bad thing. We use to have genes that enabled us to break it down easily, we lost that too.

It seems less vit c and more uric acid gave us an evolutionary advantage.

This seems to be correct but its confusingly anoying

Wasn’t vitamine C good and uric acid bad?


#2

I never thought like that. Less vitamin C isn’t good, it’s just we got plenty of it from our food (or not but still enough) so we had no evolutionary advantage to make it ourselves, it made too little difference… sigh

I don’t know anything about uric acid.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #3

Vitamin C is necessary as an antioxidant in the absence of fresh meat. Long before the British Navy discovered the value of feeding its sailors limes and lemons, it was known that eating fresh (not preserved) meat prevented scurvy. This is why people on a carnivore diet don’t need to worry about vitamin C. On Royal Navy ships, everyone stayed healthy as long as there were still animals aboard to kill for fresh meat; the trouble came when the animals were gone, and all there was to eat was salt beef and ship’s biscuit.

The human body has evolved to make its own antioxidants, but a high-carbohydrate diet elevates insulin levels, and high insulin turns on genes that shut off the production of endogenous antioxidants. This makes exogenous antioxidants, such as vitamin C, necessary. A ketogenic diet reduces or even eliminates the need for exogenous antioxidants, both by lowering insulin, and because β-hydroxybutyrate, one of the ketone bodies, shuts of the genes that high insulin had turned on, thus restoring the body’s endogenous antixodant mechanisms.

The uric acid cycle is the body’s means of ridding itself of excess nitrogen.


(Laurie) #4

Ha. I just saw this video today and posted it to my Accountability thread. If you don’t want to watch the whole video, you can watch from 7:30 to 8:45.


(Vic) #5

Traditionally a end product of purin metabolism, in other words waste.

More recent studies show its a very potent anti oxidant, anti free radicals, prevents cancer etc etc. Some scollars claim it replaces most functions of vit C.

@islandlight thx Laurie. Seen this video, its inspiring :slightly_smiling_face:


(Bob M) #6

Am I the only one who feels bad when taking vitamin c?


(Laurie) #7

Do you mean (a) it affects you in a bad way? Or (b) you feel that taking it is bad in some way?


(Vic) #8

Perhabs uric acid is the preferred anti oxidant.

Vitamine C lowers uric acid levels.

I’m beginning to suspects uric acid, dispite playing a major role in Goat, it is not the bad guy.

Vitamine C is the bad guy as it lowers the prefered anti oxidant, uric acid.
Vit C is a replacement, yes, but not good enough for optimal health.

It just adds up to all the evidences that show humans are carnivores. Meat is a good source of purin.

Of course i’m biased like no other, big carnivore fanboy, but see the connection?


(Ethan) #9

I also feel bad about taking vitamin C. I only started taking it last year as a precaution because of Covid. I do wonder if it does any good or even if it makes something worse


(Edith) #10

Vitamin C can actually be converted into oxalate. It’s not a good for us as we have been led to believe.

“More recent research has indicated that with even low levels of dietary AA consumption, small increases in intake (> 281 mg/day vs < 105 mg/day) in male health professionals increased stone risk by 31%6, and total AA intake increased stone risk 2 fold in a large Swedish population7. At the other extreme, individuals constantly consuming large oral doses of AA or receiving intravenous infusions, have been reported to develop oxalate nephropathy in several case reports812.”


(Laurie) #11

Thanks so much, @VirginiaEdie. I didn’t know it was possible to take too much Vitamin C/ascorbic acid.


(Vic) #12

Thx Edith. :+1:
Had no idea about vit C and its relation to Oxalate.