Veteran Ketonian Carb Survey (>1yr)


(Windmill Tilter) #1

If you’ve been on keto for more than a year, I’m curious to know how many carbs you eat on an average day. I’m coming up on my one year anniversary, and I’m considering adding some more carbs into my diet. I don’t bother tracking any more, but I’d guess that I probably average around 10. I’m curious what a comfortable upper limit might be.

I can appreciate this varies by individuals, but I’m interested to know what the general range is. Obviously one solution would be to spend $100 or so to buy a glucose meter, a ketone meter and test strips to calculate GKI, but I’d prefer to avoid that.

So ketonians, how many carbs lets you stay comfortably in ketosis?


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #2

Usually sub-15 grams per day, frequently sub-10 grams. Rarely 15-20 grams on a day. All carb grams are incidental to the fat/protein foods I eat. I do not eat any food specifically for the carbs. I see no reason to do so, since in my opinion carbs serve no useful purpose. I’ve been humming along quite smoothly on fatty acids and ketones for 3 years and see no reason to change. I presume gluconeogenesis is doing what it needs to do adequately so I have no incentive to eat sugar and no particular desire to do so. I consume a lot of dairy - cream, cheese, ghee - and most of my incidental carbs come from that. I often eat either walnuts or macadamia nuts which contain significant carbs, so when I eat either I plan the rest of my meals overall around those to keep the day’s total carbs low. I am overall healthy, alert and a happy camper. :sunglasses:

[Edit] PS: I guess I should mention that I weigh/measure all my food for every meal plus a total for each day. So I do know exactly what I’m eating. All this data is on spreadsheets going back daily for a bit more than 2 1/2 years now. I do not find recording this data onerous. If that makes me a nerd, OK.


(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #3

I’ve been keto for about 18 months.

My guess is under 20.
I’ve chosen to not count the 6gm of carbs from the heavy cream I drink with supper. I am not trying to lose weight, and I don’t have a whole lot of reserves (other than fat on my thighs). I eat OMAD and have trouble getting enough fat in the one meal. Other carbs come from cheese, condiments, and veggies.

I generally can keep my glucose under 90 (or at least under 100), even after eating, but sadly my ketones don’t break 1.2 or so unless I’m fasting for at least 36 hours.

I have lots of glucose data, thanks to my CGM. Unfortunately, it doesn’t measure ketones. And I’m somewhat glad for that. I know my ketones tend to be low during the day (like 0.3) and by supper (24 hours after eating) sometimes I’ll see anywhere from 0.6 to 1.2mmol ketones.


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #4

Some days 10. Some days 80. I’d estimate my average at around 30 these days.


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #5

I don’t track anymore, but I eat a lot of the same stuff I did when I did. With the exception of occasional holiday feasting, I would be around 30, maybe an odd day here and there after an extended fast, I might go up to 50ish.

Where I am coming from: female, yoyoed for 30+ yrs. took a year of keto eating to get to goal weight, in maintenance since May 2017. I use a breathalyzer and stay in nutritional ketosis very consistently.


(Bob M) #6

6 years low carb/keto. No idea how many carbs I eat per day. Some days, very little (all meat/eggs/cheese). Some days, more.

I use a breathalyzer daily and a blood ketone meter sometimes. The breathalyzer is useless to tell me whether I’m in ketosis, unless it’s really high. The blood ketone meter is OK, but my values are always low after 6 years.


(Lazy, Dirty Keto 😝) #7

I still stay under 20 net a day. Maybe 22 at most. Average day is maybe around 15-17 net. I’ve never experimented to see what my limit is while staying in ketosis.


#8

I am “abnormal” as I did keto, got fat adapted, went back to my old low-carb ways but kept and improved some keto habits and I am on and off since (but I continue to change my ways a bit). Now very low-carb became possible and it’s too tempting so I don’t plan to stray from it often.

I started with 40g net carbs in the very beginning as it was extremely little even after a few 80g years, anything below was totally unrealistic. I was a huge vegetable lover and well, vegetables are carby especially in my big amounts (to be clear, I felt I eat less than minimal amount of vegetables at 40g. I almost completely stopped eating vegetable dishes as those couldn’t fit, it was a tad tough without meat, I usually did vegetarian keto). I almost never went below 30g until recently, for various reasons.

On my carnivore trial I eat 5-10g net carbs (total isn’t much more). I probably will do almost carnivore a lot and go a bit higher but not very much. I don’t know yet if 20g would work and I won’t experiment with that now. My new intake being so low, I don’t even need to track and I stay in ketosis, that’s great.

My personal ketosis limit is around 45g as far as I can tell, I didn’t notice it changed any. I am quite sure about it as there were signs it works but I don’t measure anything and I actually don’t even care so very much about ketosis. It’s probably great and whatnot but my main priority is being healthy and feeling great, whatever it takes. I tried this and that and extreme low-carb seems the best now. But I usually feel fine if I don’t go over 80g net carbs (or don’t eat super wrong items) and it’s very easy and natural to do, very nearly always. I am a low-carber for life, it’s clear since several years and I am very pleased with it.


#9

Keto for 5 years. Routinely test fasting blood ketones and rarely out of ketosis.

Your question interested me. Like @ctviggen Bob, I don’t count carbohydrate content of foods and just eat an instinctively low carb diet avoiding pretty much all drinks that aren’t water or coffee, and in foods, avoiding pasta, rice, bread, potatoes, starchy vegetables and industrial seed oils.

Since it’s summer, I have been eating some local, in season fruits like apricots, plums and peaches. So I thought I’d track my carb intake including the fruit. It totals about 30g total carbohydrates per day. It surprised me how low it came out.


(bulkbiker) #10

Should we form a nerds who keto group?
I too record almost every day and have done since Feb 2017.
@Don_Q
My carb intake for 2019 was an average of 10g per day which would have been mainly from cream in my coffee a few raspberries sometimes and 90% dark chocolate. The rest of my intake would have been meat,fish, dairy.
I rarely measure ketones but over the past year have been registering (so in ketosis) every time I have.
Edit to add been ketoing and IF since October 2015


(charlie3) #11

40 net grams. Most of that is in my large daily salad. I tracck with crono so reasonably confident of that number. I make up for it with activity which burns 40% of total daily calories. I gave up on carnivore because of constant hunger. The extra carbs help avoid diet fatigue.


#12

I do not measure for ketones but I have been doing keto for over a year. I need to stay under 30 net carbs to be in ketosis I believe.


(Kristen Ann) #13

I’m 14 months in. I average ~ 60 total carbs. Some days I’m at 10, some days > 100 and still in ketosis.


(Troy) #14

12.453123 Total Carbs per day approx.:rofl:
Recently <8 total since mostly carnivore
I don’t measure, prick , probe or breath though to check ketosis
My NSV work just great!

Btw
I’m Not counting black coffee
If there’s carbs in coffee I quit😩
So don’t tell me please :wink:


(Bob M) #15

Not only are there carbs in coffee, there’s a tiny amount of protein, which means your 4+ day fast is useless for autophagy. :wink:

And yes, I’m kidding. Though many people believe this.


(Troy) #16

:rofl:


(Pete A) #17

2.5 years Keto, still under 20 gross carbs a day… every so often I indulge in something high carb, but get right back on…


(Empress of the Unexpected) #18

I stay in ketosis around 50 grams of carbs.