"Vegetable" Oils and Inflammation - Help Talking to a Friend

(Athena) #1

Hi everyone. I’d like some help with how to talk to my friend. He lives with his elderly mom, who is in her early 70’s. Though I doubt he will ever switch to Keto, he is open to, and wants to make healthy changes in their eating. I don’t know much about his mom, except that she has a history of blood clots, is on blood thinners, has recently gained weight, and was just diagnosed with high blood pressure.

I was helping him over the phone while he shopped for Mississippi Pot Roast. We got to the butter ingredient and I asked if he had enough butter at home and he told me they use margarine. Ack!

I told him he must use butter in the recipe and that he should get rid of all of their margarine and use butter overall. I’d like to follow up with him and explain why. I know these “vegetable” oils are extremely highly processed and terrible for us, and they cause inflammation, but I don’t know the details.

Can someone explain to me what type of inflammation they cause and why they are so bad?

Thanks!

(Rob) #2

This may be overkill but,

https://breaknutrition.com/omega-6-fats-alternative-hypothesis-diseases-civilization/

(GINA ) #3

The way I have explained it is that I only eat oil from things that are easy to get oil from. Squish an avocado or an olive or a walnut on a paper bag and it will leave an oily spot. Squash some corn kernels or a soybean and what do you get? Nothing or water, so what kind of processing must it take to get oil from it?

My other rule is the item being used to obtain oil must be food in its whole form. Cotton and rapeseed are not foods, so I don’t use their oil.

I did get one friend to switch from vegetable oil with this explanation.

(Omar) #4

I am not sure that I will advice anyone to increase the saturated fat before eliminating the carbs.

The carbs are the enemy.

Before the keto, I did not tolerate the fat very well. Actually I wasted good portion of mg life avoiding fat.

when I eliminated the carbs, I was surprised how well I tolerated the fat.

Also if I were you, I will not try to convince your friend of anything.

This lady is old and not healthy. If anything happens your friend may blames you.

Give your friend the link to the forum, and let him/her decide.

Keto is a committment.

Best regards

(Renee Slaughter) #5

I’m not sure this will be helpful but here it is

(Athena) #6

@Alpha, I’m not attempting to convince. As I said, my friend is already very interested in making healthy changes and open to listening to me. I never said I would advise him to increase saturated fat, only switch from a PUFA to a healthy fat.

@rslaughter1960, I’ve seen that video, it’s very good. From what I remember she talks about the processing of “vegetable” oils and about how we shouldn’t heat certain oils like olive oil and avocado oil. I will view it again, though.

Thanks @Capnbob for that link. I think my friend needs something easier (maybe me too, lol). I did find these:

http://butterbeliever.com/what-is-pufa/