Vaping affect Ketosis?

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(Tarathon Panichluxsapong) #1

I’m vaper and want to ask about the sweetness in the vapor.
Does it affect the ketone or insulin level?

(VLC.MD) #2

Not to an apppreciable extent.

I wonder if you can vape ketones ?

Probably would cause major symptoms

(Tarathon Panichluxsapong) #3

I use the e-cig during I.F. and some flavour is very sweet.
So I just think about that.

Because some say artificial sweetener can rise the insulin level.

(Daniel Crispin) #4

You know that recent studies has shown vaping to be a lot more damaging to the heath than smoking?

The problem is with the base they use, I can’t remember that it’s called, but it’s very very bad for you. Originally vaping was done with water as a base and that was fine… but of course they needed to find something to make it addictive… hense the crap they sell now.

(VLC.MD) #5

I’m 100% positive inhaling burning tobacco is bad.

Best estimates show vaping is at least 95% safer.

(Jacob Wagner) #6

I don’t know if there is a direct effect. However, I know that any sweat taste can potentially cause an insulin reaction. This effect varries from person to person.

If you have a home glucose tester then you can find out by taking a 10+ hour fasting reading. Then take a typical vape dose for you and test again in 30-60 minutes. If your glucose has gone down more than the variance of your meter then you had an insulin reaction to it.

If your meter has a lot of varience then you can do this several times and look at the average change, if its more than a point or two down then you are having an insulin reaction to the vape.

Of course, if your glucose goes up, then it contains glucose, a glucose precursor, or a hormone causing your body to create glucose.

I am not sure its such a good idea to even have extra water in your lungs.

–Jacob

(Maria) #7

:joy::+1:t2:

(Rhett Becker) #8

Vape was never made with Water. The entire water Vapor thing was never true. Vaping water would actually be quite harmful. There is nothing in vape that is more harmful than smoking. The base is Vegetable Glycerin and Propylene glycol, both are Genuinely Recognized as Safe by the FDA. Also, vape has been reported as 98 percent safer than cigarettes by the FDA and the American Heart Association, and 95 percent safer by the Brittish Royal Institute of Medicine. And before anyone points out Propylene glycol is in antifreeze, that was to make antifreeze safer, PG is also in every artificial flavoring and most medications.

(William O'regan) #9

I regularly vape and it has no effect on my ketone levels (use a breathalizer to check)

(DougH) #10

“Show me the science”; lets see those studies.

Most of the studies and claims that I have seen are faux reporter science. Hands down there aren’t many studies and the studies that have been done have a poor comparison to actual vaping.

For example to test for toxicity they expose cell lines to straight flavor extract in vitro. That isn’t a good test for diluted flavors which are delivered in a vapor.

When they test for heavy metals they rig devices for continuous use which overheats the coils and puts them into conditions never experienced in normal use.

Current limited studies show it to be inline with other nicotine replacement methods, which is a metric ton safer than combustible tobacco products.

I appreciate your concern, but it is a disservice to smokers to continue to harp on the dangers of vaping when there would be a marked improvement in global health if all smoking was replaced with vaping.

I won’t claim that vaping is better than nothing, but that ignores the reality that many smokers are lifetime smokers who will often relapse and go back to smoking. I personally do not know of any smokers that switched to vaping who went back to smoking.

As for your claims about the origin of vaping, I don’t know where got your facts, but they are uninformed and wrong. Original e-cigarettes always contained nicotine, much more in fact before devices got better, and they always were a PG base. Nicotine levels have gone down as vapor production has gone up in most devices, and more vegetable glycerin has been used following market wishes, but it is basically the same product.