US obesity rates drop for 1st time in a decade, study shows

(icky) #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVuHo5r2br8

Quite an interesting report…

The statistics of 12% and 6% for weightloss drugs is a lot higher than I’d have expected.

(David Cooke) #2

So does the combination of Ozympic + continuing to eat a crappy diet (eat anything you want) seem like a good idea? I’m sure it does to many people.

#3

It’s still better than being Obese, crappy diet is subjective. People need to take one step at a time. Thinking people will fix everything or even start to grasp how to do things all at once is completely unrealistic. People lose fat, start feeling better about themselves, then start caring about health, maybe start working out, then start learning to maximize things. Normal people need to climb the ladder one rung at a time. Ozempic/Semaglutide has more people motivated to get healthy than anything I’ve ever seen before, people actually have hope and it’s showing.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #4

Or obesity rates are so high they are all dropping down dead, hence less obese people :man_shrugging:
Not the best solution because they’ll be unable to purchase meds in that condition.
English sense of humour may not seem very sympthetic lol

(Joey) #5

Except then they no longer need Ozempic and are screwed because they lost weight in an unhealthy, unnatural way. All the urges to overeat on carbs return and they have not fat-adapted in the first place. Worse yet, they’ve likely done internal damage yet to be fully understood. Limb removal will also reduce weight - but it’s not healthy either.

When it comes to this new over-prescribed money-maker, you cannot medicate yourself to good health. You can only mask the symptoms of poor health.

When the lawsuits over adverse side effects begin to get more coverage, and boy, will they ever, the $#1T will hit the fan.

(Robin) #6

A good friend (very overweight) was put ozempic for diabetes when it was a very new drug…. before we had heard anything about weight loss.
When I saw him in a few months, he was a different person. He credited ozempic for jump starting him, then just went keto. And no longer needed the ozempic.
It’s been a 2 or 3 years now and he has remained keto and at a healthy weight with a new mindset.
He’s not the first person to have experienced this.

I’m not saying all fat people should go on ozempic, but there are some really successful stories that are lasting.

(Joey) #7

Sounds like this friend had a really positive outcome … as you note, Ozempic “jump started” his path to a more permanent and genuine inside-out based change in his health. A drug-free one. :+1:

#8

Everybody is told to fix their diet, if they don’t, that’s on them. Can’t blame Semaglutide and punish the people trying because some lazy people are lazy. That’s the solution in search of a problem scenario.

(If) they continued to eat trash, sure, but that’s no different than anybody that only try’s to band-aid things instead of fixing them.

As far as internal organ damage, I’ve seen nothing of that, but have a hard time believing that a mimic of an endogenous hormone is doing that on anything other than a massively abusing amount. I’ve been into Peptides long before they became a fad, I’ve yet to see any damage to anybody I know using them (which is a lot), myself that’s used tons of them or read any horror stories.

There’s only a very small amount of peptides that can do massive damage if overdone or used incorrectly, HGH, Insulin, IGF-1 and one evil one, Adipotide.

Most of the Semaglutide hatred is just because some are overpaying for it, which is optional. Weight loss clinics have it compounded (not really) and they pay about a 1/3rd of name brand Wegovy, those of us actually in peptide circles and that have been around and using them before even Ozempic pay way less than that. I pay $65 for 5mg of Semaglutide, which if it was Wegovy would be $800-$1000.

Exactly my point! One good thing leads to another! The people trying shouldn’t be punished for what the lazy do.

(Joey) #9

Point well-taken. If this were the more common outcome, all the better - and power to them.

My concern is that, notwithstanding your uniquely deep knowledge, diligent research, and applied personal experience, most folks out there are clueless. And so, Wegovy and Ozempic are the kind of “miracle cure” shortcuts that will haunt them years from now.

I suspect we agree on a lot more than meets the eye.

#10

Agreed, but same deal most of us believe (here),Doc’s suck. People like to be extremists, the doc’s have zero nutritional knowledge, which is a bad fit for them to be the ones giving it to people, whereas the weight loss clinics actually do address them since unlike mainstream doc’s, if they don’t get people their results, people stop giving them money, and then they go byebye.

What I don’t understand is what those same people are doing for cash since aside from diabetics on Ozempic, they’re paying insane prices for it, the fact they’d even consider that being a long term thing is insane. I pay about $65 for 5mg of it, retail still averages $900, and given the way too fast dosage protocol (which is unneeded) that will add up real fast! Maybe say, hey, eat clean and it’ll put $1k in your wallet every month, that’s some motivation!

(Joey) #11

And $1k can buy a truckload of good quality meat.