Ugh..."‘Explosive increase’ of ticks that cause meat allergy in US due to climate crisis"

(Bob M) #1

I’ve met people who have this. No red meat? What would I eat?

(Bob M) #2

By the way, I went out last year into my fenced-in yard to change the settings on my pool pump. I saw the tick that causes the meat allergy on a screw driver I had put onto the ground. Like an idiot, I tossed the screw driver with the tick on it into the yard and picked it up later (without the tick). I should have killed the tick, because the article says the ticks are super aggressive and will follow humans.

(Joey) #3

Thanks for the link. Something new to add to the list of things to worry about (… what would happen if we ran out?)

Following some of the links to research, I get the impression that raw red meat is mostly to blame in those with this condition; whereas some report that cooked beef was non-reactive?

#4

Poultry and Fish, and also why, although I make fun of it, why I’m not against the fake meat. I know a handful of people that have alphagal, it’s their only link back to normal-ish. It’s all mammal meat that’s out.

(Ethan) #5

I know people with this too.

I would bet this was intentionally engineered and released to infect people to promote “sustainability goals”.

(Joey) #6

Seriously? How did they get the cattle to wear aluminum foil hats? :thinking:

(Ethan) #7

They didn’t need to get the cattle to wear tin foil hats. They needed to engineer a protein and modify Lone Star ticks to carry it, then let them breed and spread.

The fact that we evolved for 10s of 1000s of years without ever encountering Alpha-gal Syndrome and only recently observed it soon after it became technologically possible to create it is pretty obvious to many…but I guess not all

#8

That basicallly means vegetarianism to me, sadly. Poultry and fish can’t even satiate me without red meat but it’s a moot point as tasty fish and poultry are way too expensive for me. Of course, they may be great for others, there are many chicken and seafood lover!
So I would go back to being a vegetarian myself. I would survive as I did in the past but it would be quite tragic, seriously impacting the quality of my life for a long while (mostly mental and joy things, my body would be almost fine with it). Crazy tick. It’s good I don’t think I have a chance to get this problem here. But I would adapt. And would try to heal myself first. No red meat, it’s just utterly horrible. And I barely had any in my first 4 decades of life. But my body is much more aware about what is its ideal diet now and even my tastes have changed (they could change back, possibly but I am where I am now due to a very sudden almost 180 degrees turn regarding plants, it wasn’t me and my training, I don’t trust it would be undone easily).

But the article says some people need to avoid dairy as well. That would just make my survival nearly impossible. I always depended on big amounts of dairy. Of course, humans can survive many things but I would be miserable for a very long time. Plants aren’t good options to me personally and I am not even the worst, some people truly get sick for some reason. I just feel worse with carbs. I would need to depend on vital gluten a lot (research to figure out if it’s a problem, I only had a little experience, gluten free feels exactly the same as much gluten, I only did the former for a year and never did a long term experiment with 100+ g gluten a day or something though I wouldn’t need that much all the time, maybe 60-70g would be enough if my protein options would be eggs and gluten and little else)… I doubt I would be comfortable with much more than 10 eggs a day especially now that I have trained myself to eat very little (but it would be easy and lovely to raise it back).
And I would stay fat forever unless I would hate my diet so much I couldn’t eat but I doubt it.
I wouldn’t eat fake meat. I didn’t do it as a vegetarian and wouldn’t start. Nothing resembles meat anyway, just meat, as far as I know (for the ones who are sensitive to big differences, I know some people are strange). But I am fine with gluten based dishes now, at least. I didn’t have that as a vegetarian in the past, my high protein intake was mostly based on animal products.

I feel sorry for people with this problem especially if they aren’t compatible with a diet without red meat. It’s doable (well maybe not the part where the steam of red meat is a problem too… what. the. hell?) but can be very, very tough for some. Even without additional dietary problems.
Poor souls.

(Joey) #9

Clearly not obvious to me. :wink:

The reduction in pirates on the high seas has been observed along with a sharp rise in atmospheric CO2 levels. While this correlation is indisputable, causality is not obvious to all, I guess. :mage:

(Bob M) #10

This is similar to the conspiracy theory that Lyme disease was genetically engineered in a lab on the east coast (Long Island?). But I can’t figure out why you would do this. A bacterium that doesn’t kill anyone but makes some more mentally unstable? And carried by something you can’t control? You would do this…why?

Personally, I think anything tick-borne is not likely to be human-caused.

(Joey) #11

But we might acknowledge that tick-borne conspiracy theories are among the most entertaining.

After all, the fact that we evolved for 10s of 1000s of years without ever encountering a tick-borne conspiracy theory until only recently is pretty obvious. :roll_eyes:

(Ethan) #12

Evil exists in the world and it has absolutely no logic to it. It’s impossible to understand so of course you couldn’t understand it and neither could I. But it is here and always has been here and occasionally manifests itself.

#13

While I wouldn’t put that past the evil types, it’s more likely the record level of fragility that our immune systems have become it more of the issue, and while this started pre COVID, and the apologists can cry, sorry, this isn’t political, it’s just how it is, then we stack on top of that playing with our immune systems at a much lower level than we ever have before, and autoimminue issues have skyrocketed since then, even the CDC doesn’t dispute that. Clearly they don’t say it’s causal, because they couldn’t even if they proved it because that would be their head on the chopping block.

To add insult to injury, things like mRNA technology will most likely be how we fix a lot of this as well as other immune system issues, it has the potential to be like a more controlled possibly safer version of CRISPR, but now that they pushed to fast and made people afraid of it, who knows how that will affect either development, or realistically acceptance of it now.

I’ve said a milion times I’ll be first in line to have my slow caffeine gene “fixed” if I could. The hairloss gene…BYE! Think of the APOE4/4 people that could have that risk drastically dropped etc.

However, you can see this article was trying to virtue signal and rev people up that way since they wanted to go with “due to climate crisis”.

(Joey) #14

If these evil-do’ers are plotting to turn us into vegetarians through our newly concocted allergic reaction to red meat, then they aren’t evil after all - since they must believe they’re helping to make us healthy. Albeit against our will.

Put differently, as far as evil-do’ers go, they kind of suck at it. (This conspiracy theory needs work.)

#15

That’s what scares me the most, many of the people that do the most damage, literally do believe they’re truly helping people. Which is its own problem.

Had a little mini talk with one of them the other day, going on about all the “climate change” stuff and her ranting about all the “anti-science” people that say it’s not real. So I laughed and she went, “what, you don’t think it’s real”? So I decided to be nice, so I said, you do realize that’s never actually been the debate right? That’s what the news says to rile people like you up, the actual science literally shows it both ways, the actual debate is whether we’re the ones doing it or not, not whether it’s happening. So then I went as an 80’s kid (she was mid 20’s at best). The acid rain would kill us in 10yrs, that Florida would be under water “in 10yrs”, the Ozone layer will be gone “in 10 yrs” Greenhouse gas would kill us “in 10 yrs”, none of that has ever happened, so why shouldn’t people question the people like you that have actually been dealing with this longer than you’ve been alive while none of it has ever once happened?

If crickets had a look! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

(Joey) #16

Sounds like fun. Being a bit older, I’ve added to your list the magazine covers about how we’re all going to freeze to death in the coming ice age, etc., when doing my doom recital.

And this is where I’m inclined to put theories about how evil-do’ers are now trying to turn us all into vegetarians through custom-engineered tick disease. The bastards.