Type 1 keto and insulin resistance


(Chris Kornelsen) #1

My wife is going keto she is type 1. We just got out of he doctors and they are very against keto. They said ketones cause insulin resistance. Is this true?


(Rebecca 🌸 Frankenfluffy) #2

I don’t know, I’m afraid. I’m not insulin resistant, and I’ve been T1D for 30+ years, keto since summer 2016 - in my experience, eating only small amounts of carbohydrate means I don’t need to to chase high blood glucose with large doses of insulin which then rebound, make me hypoglycaemic and require me then eat carbs to get back up to normal levels again. I’ve left that rollercoaster behind.

I haven’t heard that ketones cause insulin resistance in type 1s. However, if I have a very high blood glucose for a few hours (due to an infection, for instance) then I will have high ketones, AND I will require a larger correction dose of insulin than my normal ratio, that is true. But I don’t know whether it’s the high ketones themselves that mean I require more insulin, or just the fact that my sugar is very high. I can’t make a definitive link there. And we’re not talking dietary ketosis here, but high ketones due to an infection in a T1 needing prompt action to avoid DKA. So not to do with keto.

Leaving the question of insulin resistance aside, in my own type 1 experience keto has given me a much, much easier lifestyle, a very steady blood glucose level, stable weight in the healthy range and terrific HbA1c results.

It’s taken a lot of practice, a lot of hard work and some trial and error with insulin dosing - there’s no magic answer I can offer in terms of dosing advice I’m afraid as we’re obviously all very different! And heck, it still drives me MAD when my blood glucose isn’t perfect ALL of the time - but I’m much, much better controlled on keto than I ever was on the NHS-recommended dietary guidelines.

My diabetes team don’t really know I’m keto - I have told them that I don’t really eat that much carbohydrate and they do the whole ā€˜we wouldn’t recommend that’ and then we generally just chat for a bit about my test results and part as friends!


(Lazy, Dirty Keto šŸ˜) #3

I think some of the info you received here may be helpful to you but not sure if insulin resistance is specifically covered:

Good luck with whatever she decides!


#4

NOPE! Your Doc is pretty uninformed, but that’s typically. Given that she’s a type 1 she may want to read some of Doc Bernstein’s stuff, he’s a type 1 himself but there’s plenty of type 1’s that do keto and drastically reduce their insulin needs. She’ll still need her basal insulin but it’ll probably be pretty minimal. He (could) have be thinking about physiological insulin resistance which is a thing, it’s pretty much a mimic of insulin resistance that happens after a long time keto, but not quite the same and not permanent. She’ll want to grab a ketone meter ahead of time and regularly check them. I think keto mojo is still the best deal cost wise but double check. Typically we have safeties in place to stop a runaway ketone situation, but it’s actually possible for a type 1, although still not typical.


(FRANK) #5

Your doctors have an agenda. That agenda is to turn you into a cash cow - i.e. regularly scheduled office visits; prescribed medications that they may receive an incentive to push on you.
Be your own advocate and do what you feel is right!
I am not advocating medical advise but how would it NOT be beneficial for a T1 or T2 diabetic to reduce carb consumption?

My penny and a half.


(Scott) #6

+1 on Dr. Bernstein and his book The Diabetes Solution. I am reading it now and I would recommend it to any type 1 or 2 diabetic. His background is very interesting too. He started out as a engineer but after being type one he became fascinated researching diabetes. So much so he went back to school and became an MD. He now one of the nations leading authorities on diabetes.


(Carol E. ) #7

Type 1 Grit is a Facebook community that follow Dr. Bernstein. I am not sure if they have other communities for discussion.


(Carol E. ) #8

Also, this formum has a community for Type 1 that you may want to check out.