TreatyMeatyCarnivore December!

[FrankoBear]

OMAD today. Sashimi.

Summer sunset from the uphill entrance to our property.

[Fangs]

@FrankoBear… beauty pic!! wow you are living in a very fine area for your homestead life FB!

sashimi? how ya eating that? just doing a bunch of raw fish/seafood options today at some meal? just wondering on that

I know you are loving your summer weather. Hit the surf yet?

[Naghite]

I wonder what reddit ZC forums (is it more than one now?) are like nowadays. Ages ago when I was there, they were scarce and talked about eating bones and rotten meat (wow. there is 1-2 such items here and there traditionally, be it fish in the North or pheasants here in older times but still, we are not equipped to act like vultures with our food) so I wasn’t around much… And the fasters were crazy, they were all for forcing big pain and other problems on themselves and fellow fasters… The diet related parts of Reddit didn’t make a good impact on me.

Well, I am just checking them out now, but the zerocarb and carnivore chat channels seems reasonable. You are not even allowed to talk about fasting in the channels. I do not have enough Karma to start my own posts, but overall seems ok. The nutrition channel is run by vegans who shout to the hills that meat is cancerous and saturated fat causes CVD, so the nutrition channel is ■■■■■■

But I hold with now only Strict Carnivore, ZIOH, ZCH and Carnivore UK.

I will check these out when I can.

I had to google Bavette steak and it came up with a recipe that sounded good and doable on carnivore. It says it is known as flank steak.

I received shank, flank, skirt, hangar and bavette cuts from the same cow. Pretty sure that they are specifically different but some group flank and bavette together as they are beside each other in the back leg area of the cow. They taste the same regardless :).

But when I got sick, I craved organ meats.

which organs did you crave?

I just saw a post yesterday from Mikhalia Peterson saying she at 5 yrs loin diet is now seeing low folate in her blood tests so is adding liver …but I think eating eggs would be just as good…

Also very interesting, thanks for pointing this out. Good eggs probably have the minimum folate needed and could be enough. I regularly eat chicken liver (3 times a week at least, at one ounce per meal), my folate result on my bloodwork was 1705 nmol/L which should be over 1200, so I am quite good. I will try and find out what her levels were before she started supplementing.

[Septimius]

I missed your posting alot more always enjoyed chatting with ya!!

My friend I missed chatting here too - I’ve always really valued your opinions, and I enjoy reading everyone’s wide and varied journeys and experience on their carnivore paths. It’s always been a great carnivore community; I will endeavour to post more again instead of just reading.

which organs did you crave?

Liver, kidney, heart. I ate all of them several times a week, but I craved liver most of all. I ate mostly lamb’s liver, but also beef and pork liver. I was eating a large portion of pâté every day and then fried liver 3-4 times a week. I also had big seafood cravings and broth cravings.

Before this, I would eat liver maybe once every 4-6 months, at most. I enjoyed it when I ate it, but I didn’t want it again for a long while after.

I decided I must be missing some vitamins to have such strong cravings. I supplement a few things now, in an effort to get well, but I alternate each day between two supplements which I credit to removing those organ cravings (the others alone didn’t have an impact).

With how you follow vitamins etc, you might find this interesting, so this is the breakdown:

Vitamin 1:

Vitamin A 800 µg RE
Vitamin D 5 µg
Vitamin E 10 mg a-TE
Vitamin C 60 mg
Thiamin 1.8 mg
Riboflavin 1.6 mg
Niacin 18 mg NE

Vitamin 2:

Thiamin 1.4 mg
Riboflavin 1.6 mg
Niacin 18 mg NE
Vitamin B6 2 mg
Folic Acid 200 µg
Vitamin B12 10 µg
Biotin 150 µg
Pantothenic Acid 6 mg

Oh, I forgot - I also broke my strict carnivore to eat black pudding. I couldn’t get enough of it - I really feel like there was something in the blood that I was after.

[Fangs]

OW on wallet.

truck issues. Dodge Mega Cab had DEF light come on and check engine light hit.

so this is what is going down now: so Dodge said $700 DEF sensor for part. don’t pull camper without replacing. just friggin’ shoot me here.
hubby seeing if under our extended warranty, one can only hope big time on it. if not, with labor, what ?? a grand gone on this trip easily. but still need to replace before home on Jan 5 so truck to be put into shop and ??? just shoot me someone please. trip is just so off ya know. ugh…but smiling thru it if I can.

ya know now I just wanna go home ain’t really fun anymore

LOL

[Naghite]

I finally made kidneys that tasted good right away, yah. Just like liver, key is to leave the inside raw.

[FrankoBear]

@Fangs the sashimi tasted delicious: scallop, kingfish, salmon, tuna, octopus, squid, poppy orange fish eggs (roe). But it didn’t hold me. It would make a nice accompaniment to a rib-eye.

I have the steak ready for New Years Eve. But the in-laws might be bringing slow cooked beef, so I’ll see.

Had breakfast at 9am of eggs and bacon. 2 coffees 3 hours apart. I’ve been drinking beef bone broth for salt every time Mrs. Bear fires up the kettle for a cup of tea. Being active in the summer heat, even swimming in the ocean asks for some extra minerals.

Nature sculpted a Henry Moore out of limestone at the local beach.

[Fangs]

@Naghite
so get ya on that ‘perfect cook’ for certain meats. Raw on inside or super duper rare is key to many of my eats. Glad ya enjoyed your meal so well!!

@FrankoBear
ahhh, the whole hit of seafood provided by the ocean! but yea I can see it not holding you but darn it sounds delish!! Love your nature sculpture pic!!

----------------so foggy here this morn. rain to come later. damp chilly type brrrr gonna get a chest cold or pneumonia feeling weather LOL
will see if big rain at fireworks at night or ? Not sure but if pouring we will cancel Broadway at the Beach and just stay in but hitting steakhouse later for dinner out tonight tho. Massive rack ribs for me or monster ribeye steak. Hmm, not sure both I know I do kinda want both HA

following how weather is gonna go on how New Years will be played out for us.

hubby to handle truck issues monday. fingers crossed all good and not too expensive repair ugh

[Shinita]

Happy New Year, everyone! (Well I washed my teeth, no more booze for a few months for me, probably and no more food until I get hungry or something.)

I wondered about things but no, I won’t make big plans about strictness now or after some relaxed times for reasons. I just try to be as strict in the next 5 months as comfortably possible and as much as it makes sense to me. Whatever it means, even I don’t know yet. Sometimes I don’t see the point to push my original plan, sometimes it’s just not realistic…

Yesterday I fought the half-frozen 3.2kg pork chuck slab, it wasn’t easy and called Alvaro’s help in the end but we got out the bones It’s way easier with the usual smaller one. We made a nice soup and a roast.
It’s interesting that while I don’t like my fowl soups fatty, pork soup is great even that way. This pork chuck is quite fatty this time, yum! Okay, a bit too fatty as soup meat, it shines more as roast I am sure, I didn’t taste that yet!

We ate the good ham, it was very nice. It seems I am into scrambled eggs again, with some smoked meat in it, I had that multiple times lately.

I need to get some big momentum, I have plenty of plans regarding various things.

12 minutes until midnight. But the actual time doesn’t really matter to me. I am not sure I am ready for a new year but I surely don’t want this one linger anymore. It wasn’t a good one.

[MeganNZ]

so Dodge said $700 DEF sensor for part. don’t pull camper without replacing. just friggin’ shoot me here.

OW alright! And what a bummer and a major disruption with the truck needing to go into the shop. I hope the good outweighs all the hassle and you are still able to have a nice break away.

Enjoying our thread, thanks everyone who posts. We’re a very chatty connected bunch on these boards, our monthly threads are always many, many posts longs.

Spent the afternoon and early evening in A&E yesterday. Hernia huge and a lot of pain and nausea. But what made me go was it wasn’t fully reducing when I lay flat on my back. Didn’t see a doc until I’d been there about 6 hours because they are short staffed and crazy busy, but after IV morphine and a lot of time laying down my belly was softer and the hernia wasn’t popping out when I was on my back so he sent me home. He said next time an incarceration happens (his diagnosis) I need to take a big whack of pain killers and lay down for a few hours and gently massage the area to see if it resolves and make an appt with my doc to get referred back to the surgical team.

I’m not sure what to think to be honest. Did I just have an encounter with a far too busy health care system? No consult with a surgical registrar and not seen by an ED doc for 6 hours?! Didn’t even see the nurse again after the initial obs, blood draw and pain relief. An incarceration is the step before strangulation and strangulation is serious. I’m glad laying down helped in the end but as soon as I sat up in bed and drank some water I was in immediate pain and a bit nauseated.

I’m glad to be home but I’m definitely not feeling okay.

A bit of back story: I had an emergency cholecystectomy sometime late last year and developed 2 large incisional hernias, one on each end of the cholecystectomy scar. January this year I had an emergency hernia repair done of both hernias with mesh inserted as one had a bit of bowel trapped in it. A month or so after that surgery the lower bulge/hernia was back. I consulted Gr Google and saw the fail rate for hernia repairs was 25-50% so wasn’t too worried. I’ve been having pain off and on for many months and discomfort pretty much the whole time, and the past couple of weeks have been pretty bad pain wise, with the pain getting intense and hernia quite a bit bigger the night before last and all yesterday.

Anyway, just wanted to grumble so thanks for listening.

[robintemplin]

Good grief, how could you NOT grumble?!
Yikes. I’m rooting for you! Hang in there.

[Naghite]

Getting a mesh for hernia was worst mistake ever. It has stopped me from exercising my legs and I have chronic inflammation and discomfort from the mesh. Really wish I had used muscle instead of mesh, far better procedure with like 99% total success rate.

Sorry to hear you have had it even worse than me.

[Fangs]

Happy New Year all!

we need a new thread and I don’t see one yet…thought FB would start but here we go: I will.

FB wanted ‘NEW YEAR NEW YOU CARNIVORE’ so we got that

go there all for us to start a new us carnivore thread

https://www.ketogenicforums.com/t/newyearnewyoucarnivore/117505/3