Top names of those discussing ketone levels?

#1

Good day all! I am interested in reading whatever is out there about long term Keto and ketone/glucose levels. While I probably already know, (ketones are lower due to the body using them), I am still interested in reading anything out there on the topic. Just curious. No plans on EVER leaving this way of healthy eating! :grinning:

If you have a moment, please post any articles, videos, or even people in the long term keto community who discuss this. I’ve searched this forum quite a bit, and have done my own search through the names I can think of, and haven’t come across much.

I’d like to compare what is being said out there with my own experience, which I suspect isn’t very different, to that of the “experts”.

Thank you!!!

(Bob M) #2

I started LC/keto on 1/1/14. Here are my ketones over time:

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As you can see, my ketones could get pretty high in 2016. As of 2020, they were much lower. I attribute that to the body’s better use and manufacturing of them.

Consider the following. I typically work out about 3 times per week, sometimes 2, lately 4. But let’s assume 3. From 2014 to 2020, that’s 6x52x3 = over 900 times I exercised. That gave my body quite a bit of time to figure out how many ketones are necessary.

Also, my ketones are inverse to blood sugar. So, I still have higher morning blood sugar, which I assume is my body’s way of replacing glycogen.

Now, I also exercise in the morning. This has the following effect on blood sugar:

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I found, when wearing my CGM, that I had higher daily average blood sugar when I exercised in the morning, as compared to days I did not.

That means I also would have lower ketones, since they travel in the opposite directions for me.

#3

@ctviggen What are your daily macros if you track them? Do you have a minimum daily intake for fat and protein?

(Bob M) #4

Started with Atkins. Never tracked macros, never will, except for tests such as trying to determine whether high protein affected my blood sugar (it does not – at all).

And if you want to attempt to modify your macros to see their effect on ketones, all I can say is, good luck. I have a picture somewhere where I took ketones at the same time using three different meters and got 0.2, 0.4 and 0.8 mmol/l. Another set of tests with two different brands, got two different results. Tests with 2 meters but the same brand, got 2 different results. Same finger or different fingers. Never mattered.

With accuracy like that, testing isn’t possible.

#5

I’ve noticed in myself without any testing that excess protein intake beyond what I need affects ketone production since I have GLUT1 deficiency syndrome, which is basically my nervous system and red blood cells can permanently only use ketones efficiently as fuel. A normal person like yourself that also lifts weights can consume excess protein and use the excess glucose produced from gluconeogenesis without negatively affecting you.

It seems like a lot of people confuse carnivore metabolism with ketogenesis.

#6

Thanks Bob! I have followed your posting and find it interesting.

I’ve only been eating this way since 8-26-18, so not as long as you. I’d love to see any research done on ketones, weight loss, glucose etc. Just interested. I’m mostly carnivore now, although I started out Keto. I do have days where I may have a small bit of veg, but when I do I keep it under 20 grams.

We do eat out occasionally, and I while I do ask for my meat with no sauces one never knows how/if it was marinated.