This proves it. Keto is terrible


(Patrick L Anderson) #1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.insider.com/keto-diet-worst-diet-for-healthy-eating-2020-us-news-2020-1


(Full Metal KETO AF) #2

Wow, thanks for that enlightening article! I’m quitting right now. I’m buying a dozen doughnuts to make absolutely certain that I am well out of ketosis as soon as I finish this post! :upside_down_face::wink:

Out of 35 diets keto was the worst for your health! No mention of Carnivore? Mediterranean diet it is then. :cowboy_hat_face:


(Ian Patey) #3

Yep. That article has the scientific depth of a wading pool… in August… after 100 days without rain… don’t take life saving/destroying advice from mass media


(Windmill Tilter) #4

Oh my gosh, are we all gonna be ok? If I revert back to morbid obesity and T2 diabetes, can I be safe and healthy again? What a fool I’ve been.

Save some of those donuts for me @David_Stilley!


('Jackie P') #5

Mmmm… who are the ‘experts’, how much were they paid, and by whom?
Seriously, it’s depressing to imagine how many people would be steered of course by this drivel, but heartening to hear of its increasing popularity!


#6

I almost hurked up my steak and eggs. (for breakfast at 3pm). Brilliant find @patricklfw

Being the worst is akin to being the best. Best worst for the win ! Love and hate are equally energised emotions.

Ok let’s take the click bait and play “where’s the vegan?”

Hahahaha :joy:. I love how they don’t even bother to hide.

The recurring theme across the diets that excelled in healthiness is adequate calories supplied by a heavy load of vegetables, fruits and whole grains; a modest amount of lean protein, nonfat dairy and healthy fats; and an occasional treat. Plants are the foundation, and the menu is always built around minimally processed meals made from scratch.

Oh my sides are cramping :joy: “nonfat dairy and healthy fats”, stop it stop it, they’re so confused, toe dipping, whole grain hugging, fence balancers.

Here is the panel of selected ‘experts’:

https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/experts

Butt seriously, those vegans and plant-based plants have got their marketing together. And, to be clear, I love all the ketotarians who do their plant based Keto thing in full knowledge of the risks of: too high a carbohydrate load in the diet of an insulin resistant, metabolically injured person, industrial seed oils and grain anti-nutrients, without a fear of fat.


(Susan) #7

It will be awesome when the world discovers how awesome Keto is and then we will all be fit, trim and healthily living our Keto lives and be able to give helpful advice to them all… hehe one day!!


(Trudy) #8

Absolutely? Once type II diabetes takes your legs you’ll be normal BMI :wink::rofl:


(Bunny) #9

Power is numbers, not enough people, the science is not convincing enough long-term and they have more money, have to sell that beet sugar and cane…lol (beet sugar and cane industry have more money than GOD!)

If your on a keto or carnivore diet your on the bottom of the totem pole and a minority.

People forget the ketogenic diet and carnivore is still considered “experimental” no matter how much “proof” you have, it is still considered “placebo” and “paradox”.

The common denominator; cutting down refined carbohydrates will work with any kind of diet.

Eating just meat and fat proves nothing e.g. 90% fat, very little carbohydrates and very little protein will make ketosis numbers sky rocket (“dangerously”).


(bulkbiker) #10

?
I presume you mean ketones but why dangerously? I’m guessing that Paleomedicina would disagree…


(Bunny) #11

Not sure but it is a popular theme among the status quo?

Possibly the original epileptic protocol?

Should have placed quotations on that!


(bulkbiker) #12

So in other words a received opinion stated as fact…?


(Bunny) #13

Or if your out numbered as an “opinion” stated as fact…lol


#14

I understand this to be one of the foundation building blocks on which one can construct and discover personal health improvements.

From that point the divergence begins with many inputs, ideas, observations, confounders and bioindividual responses.

Build your own health.

What are some more foundation building blocks Bunny?

Sleep, sunshine, physical activity, community building, avoiding processed industrial seed oils…


(Jack Bennett) #15

Well you’ve got Greger and Katz on there so the plant-based get their due. The rest seem to be regular medical and nutritional professors, so the boilerplate is expected.

The top five diets seem like the exact same thing: all 60-70% carb, 10-20% protein (lean! Gotta be lean!), and 10-30% fat. Can anybody tell me the difference between the DASH diet and the Mediterranean diet without looking it up?

It’s all basically the generic AHA/ADA “prudent” diet. It should have the tag line “it’s boring, it won’t do much, but it probably won’t kill you as fast as the SAD”.

Essentially, it’s all biased against anything the slightest bit interesting or radical. People don’t evangelize to their friends about their DASH diet.


#16

A young cardiologist suggested it to me. I clutched my chest and groaned.


#17

I think the divide is really ownership. There is a percentage of people who don’t know and/or don’t care, some who do some other WOE, and there are those who just want a pill so they can not have to think or do anything differently.
You have to take ownership of your health and make the changes you need.
Right now I think bunny is right Ketoians are the minority… and “eat the worst diet ever”. /s

My hope for 2020 is that all the successes of people losing tons of weight will be to hard to ignore.


(Jack Bennett) #18

Well, that’s the exact sort of way the “top diets get shared”, right? They are the “official”, “prudent” way to do things, according to all the best professionals with the training.

Whereas with keto or Whole30 it’s more like “oh my GOD I lost 80 pounds and my sister lost 150 pounds and reversed her type II diabetes and now our knees don’t hurt and I have no more sleep apnea”. Or, you ask THEM because you remembered them as an obese person and now they are much smaller.


(Bob M) #19

That’s the way it is now, which is why we get lists such as the one above. In fact, some organizations have come out with keto as being an option for diabetics (not the FIRST option, as it should be, but an option).

This article is the backlash against that.


#20

Sugar is in EVERYTHING. It is used to help to preserve food. So every Sauce Hollandaise you find in a tetra pack has it. Basically all processed foods use sugar so you can store it on a shelf. “More money than God” is what somebody above wrote. I think that is the major cause for denial that keto is good for you and the only real way to lose weight with ease- the sugar industry is facing ruin. But I see more and more products in the supermarket catering to low carb lifestyle- so people are catching on.They seem to be more the younger crowd though. In my age group there is a lot more resistance and adherence to the old ways.