The Okinowan Diet in 3..2..1 - Hype Machine!


(Carolus Holman) #1

How long will it be until the Click-Bait and Diet Ads start this trend up? I can see it now Oprah and the new WW with your Okinawans Diet Plan, eat all the Sweet Potatoes you can stuff in your gullet!


(Consensus is Politics) #2

Lmao… 10:1 ratio. That artical is pure manure. Not once did they show HOW MUCH of anything was eaten. How much of that 10x the amount of protein was indigestible fiber. How much fat was eaten. These subtle things matter.

I can stay on a ketogenic diet and eat a ratio like that. 20 grams of carbs, 2 grams of protein, 300 grams of fat. So an extremely high fat diet can contain the magic ratio of crabs and fat. So yet another plant based food science article missing any science in it. Since it is missing tons of data, the story says nothing at all.

Thats a good catch @Carolus_Holman. I think you are right too. Im sure that will begin poping up everywhere.


#3

For the TL;DR

Although they do eat pork, fish and other meats, these are typically a small component of their overall consumption, which is mostly plant-based foods.

Well, at least they eat some fish with those potatoes. And then there’s this gem…

…some scientists believe that Okinawans offer more evidence for the life-enhancing virtues of a ā€œcalorie restrictedā€ diet. (emphasis mine)

So, plant-based, calorie-restricted diet for the win! As if I haven’t tried that before.

Seriously though, it is possible to live that way. It’s a lot better than a processed foods version of a high carb diet.


('Jackie P') #4

I smell a vegan rat!
Shocking!


#5

Are these the same Okinawans that eat pork for almost every meal, with a helping of pork stuffed pork on the side and a large serving of pork for dessert, and sometimes, just to mix things up, they eat pork instead?

Those Okinawans?


('Jackie P') #6

:open_mouth::hushed::worried:Whaaaaat!


(Omar) #7

I read so conflicting things about Okinowan diet that I have no clue what was there true diet.

Another thing that complicated the matter that Okinowan change their diet.


(Consensus is Politics) #8

Makes me wonder how this ā€˜study’ was conducted. Did they simply do a survey and ask what do you eat?

I can see it now. ā€œWe should tell them we eat a lot of vegetables. We dont want them to think we are eating against their rules. Lets be polite and tell them we eat like they do. We dont want to make them feel embarrassed.ā€

Ive never been to Okinawa. I gree up in San Francisco. Most of my friends were Asian Pacific, and most recently immigrated. So they still held their ā€˜old world values’. This was especially true of the older generations.

When I wasbin Korea, my experience was the Koreans would go out of their way to be polite. A friend of mine let me drive her car there. She was aghast when I stopped at a red light and forgot to turn my headlights off. Then I noticed everyone at this busy intersection had their lights off, if they were at a stop. Then theres the times I’d go on a walk about through the town. Just attempting to get lost, and meet people (no better way, I love doing it). I saw some ladies struggling with furniture on the back of a truck. I stepped in and help them off load the heavy stuff. And went on my way. They tracked me down an hour later and insisted I come over for dinner. I was at least an hour walk away by then, so either blind luck, or they searched for a long time to find me.

Last one, I promise… there was a girl that I liked that worked in a coffee shop. I spent a lot of time there. Every weekend I would bring a big box of Popeyes chicken. She would sit there and eat it with me. Months later a friend of hers that spoke english told me a secret. My friend didn’t even like Popeyes chicken. She only sat and ate it with me because it made me happy :cowboy_hat_face:. Wow.


#9

So we’re still wrapping the Okinawan Diet up in Orientalist dressings and pretending we in the West have any real clear idea as to what their diet actually is, when most of what we think we know comes from a study of them made after WWII, after they got wrecked by Imperial Japan? We’re still doing this hot take?


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #10

Of course we are, because it provides an opportunity to vilify red meat, silly! Everyone knows the Okinawans are vegetarians, except those who know they eat pork, lol! I’m with you about the silliness of the entire enterprise, but that’s nutritional ā€œscienceā€ for you! :grin::grin::grin::bacon:


(Consensus is Politics) #11

@PaulL you misspelled ā€œconsensusā€. Sorry, its an important word, has meaning, and should be treated correctly. Not to be confused with the ā€˜s’ word. Two completely different words and meanings. :sunglasses: