The lies keep rolling in crappy click bait


(Carolus Holman) #1

Wonder who PURCH is and why they push this non-science out. These are the people who should be persecuted for publishing this complete Garbage.


(TJ Borden) #2

Usually the default reason they give as to why it doesn’t last is because the weight comes back if you go back to eating the SAD.

No shit!!! That’s why we call it a lifestyle, not a diet. They can’t fathom that someone could eat this way long term, being so “restrictive”.


(Brian) #3

The thing I find so amusing is that as a keto type, I eat a lot of food and I eat a lot of variety of food, all over the place, from animal to vegetable and even a little fruit. And they are quick to call it “restrictive”.

Contrast that with someone who decides to become a vegan. Somehow, becoming a vegan is noble and filled with all kinds of choices for acceptable foods yet they give up all animal products, including meat, fish, milk, cheese, and eggs. Hmmm. Having been down that road, I found that way more restrictive than eating a keto diet.

Not saying either is right or wrong, but just finding it interesting that vegan is so well sanctioned while keto is so demonized, at least by some.


#4

The last line made me LOL: "Regarding ketones as fuel, Carson said, “It’s harder to have energy to be physically active.”

The web is full of ignoramuses who are quoted as experts but do not know what the %$#@& they are talking about. Idiots!

For me, burning ketones is the Energizer bunny on steroids. I don’t watch TV much anymore because I am too busy doing stuff or out riding my bike.


(LeeAnn Brooks) #5

The one advantage Vegans/Vegetarians have over Ketoans is that people outside the WOE understand that it’s a lifestyle WOE and not just a diet.
The same isn’t true for Keto. Everyone, even the so called experts, continue to think of it as a diet. And as pointed out, one will gain back the weight if they stop the diet.
Name a single actual diet that someone wouldn’t gain the weight back if they stop. Nutisystem, Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, standard low fat… everyone of them the person will gain the weight back if they stop eating that way.
The difference is Keto can be maintained long term. Those others can’t, or I wouldn’t be here.


#6

Actually… why is it not restrictive?

I find it hard not to agree with them AT THE MOMENT.

As in, you see…
when you eat the food outside, almost everything is with hidden carb more or less.
Either sweet sauce, or flour-coated, or starchy gravy, or starchy filling, or… whatsoever.

That’s why I think I can understand(and find it hard to disagree) that people are saying that it is restrictive.

Of course, there are also lots of food to eat, like bacon, butter…

But, not enough.


(Candy Lind) #7

NO SHIT. Not to offend any religious folks here (I myself am religious but not a zealot), but it is another “My religion is better than yours. Why? Just because!” type of argument. One of the reasons I love this forum is THE SCIENCE. The vegans can keep their religion.


(LeeAnn Brooks) #8

True enough, but the same can be said of almost any whole food aproach diet from Paleo to Mediterranean to Whole 30. You don’t hear people calling those restrictive in the same vein the call Keto.

I find it’s another way to label Keto in a way to scare people off.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #9

This keto thing is so restrictive! I can only eat bacon, steak, hamburger, pork roast, pork chops, bacon, chicken, duck, goose, turkey, bacon, lamb, ostrich, goat, butter, cream, avocadoes, bacon, broccoli, nuts, tallow, lard, cheese, olive oil, eggs, bacon . . . See what I mean? It’s unsustainable, this way of eating. It’ll probably kill me, if I stay on it long-term. [/s] :grin:


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #10

“And they don’t appear to improve athletic performance.” facepalm


(LeeAnn Brooks) #11

The one “research” study I read on athletic performance only had athletes eat Keto for three weeks and then reported that their athletic performance declined.

Well, dah. They were adapting and perhaps still in the depths of Keto flu. My athletic performance didn’t come back until almost week 5.


(Rob) #12

Dave Berry, Pulitzer prize winning author and former humor columnist for the Miami Herald’s Sunday magazine summed it up very well. He said something to the effect of Journalism school teaches you to write authoritatively about subjects you don’t necessarily understand.

It’s epidemic. News blurbs written about all kinds of subjects decorate my Firefox home page. Interesting when you do a few clicks to find out the background of the author … more often than not it’s almost non-existent in the topic they’re writing on. They’re quick to quote “experts” but as Dave Barry pointed out in one of his humor columns, finding an expert to comment on your point of view is easy to do … and he wasn’t kidding at that point.

We see that in the keto world … the media rarely accurately presents the facts. OK … so what are they doing to the facts on everything else they write authoritatively about?


(karen) #13

My soapbox position is our modern society teaches us we can externalize Anything. We can find a position we like, and then manipulate our little world to make it appear true to us. “I will not look in the dumpster behind my restaurant, and therefore, because I bring my own straw, napkin and doggy bag, I am “plastic free” and “zero waste” when I eat there.” " I will not look at the death of millions of animals that live on an acre of natural land converted by Big Ag as I eat my vegan Wheaties, and therefore I am not responsible for any animal death." People absolutely hate it when they come up against a limit they can’t manipulate, and keto forces people to do just that: So far, there’s no way to just dump the issue that western diets make us fat and sick. The ‘dumpster’ we would refuse to look into is our own body, which keeps developing the same western diseases as soon as we go back to “normal” no matter how hard we insist that we don’t like that.

So … the second best thing is to say that keto doesn’t work. “Keto doesn’t work because it isn’t an answer that allows me to manipulate the situation to my own wishes.” In that sense, they’re totally right. :smirk: