apparently there was an episode of “the doctors” tv show. My wife just tagged me in it probably because of the claims of Dr Joel Kahn (forks over knives fame…imagine that). There are some tense moments between Dr Jason Fung, Dr Kahn, and Rob Tate (Magic Pill)
Honestly Dr Kahn comes off as a real tool and seems to be somewhat inconsistent in his claims and sources.
I wish they wouldn’t have chopped this up. This appears to have most of the discussion on this search.