If you ate something you shouldn’t have …
Last night I joined my wife and daughter at our local pizza joint where they have a good deal on small personal pizzas. So after the meal, I immediately hit the gym. If you workout, there is a way to take advantage of a cheat meal and use it in a strategic way.
But everyone here says you should fast for a week, or something, in order to make up for eating excess carbs! I’m so confused…
That is a good idea unless (for me anyway) it is dinner that is the cheat meal (cannot imagine going to the gym at night and then trying to sleep).
Another strategy is to fast. I find that “pre-paying” is good (fasting for 24 to 48 hours prior). Best is “pre-and-post-paying” or fasting 24 to 48 hours prior (to be able to relax and actually enjoy the food) but then to add a 24 to 48 hour fast afterword (to get back into ketosis ASAP). Simply “post-paying” will work too but, I like to reserve that for emergencies (where I didn’t know about the event ahead of time) because it relies on starting a fast after the event (which is just difficult sometimes).
I didn’t even watch the video. LOL When I see someone with her physique, there’s a [spoiler]damn[/spoiler] good chance that what works for her will NOT work for me. Well, maybe if I ever got to that same level of body fat and fitness it might and could reduce my age by several decades…
Yeah, but the longer you fast, and therefore the long you SUGGEST as not-eating, increases your self-perceived awesomeness.
Have you learned nothing from this forum, Rob? Really?
Cheating itself is stressful. Probably the circumstances leading up to or surrounding the cheat are also stressful (e.g., bad news, socializing). So I wouldn’t add to the stress by doing anything challenging or radically different.
I’d just try to return to normal keto eating, normal exercising, etc.
I agree with your final statement - just drive on; or, as we say around here, KCKO
However, I wouldn’t necessarily suggest cheating or the circumstances around cheating are stressful. I basically plan cheats into my diet these days. I guess I’ve become more or less ‘cyclic keto’ - when I’m keto, I’m strict, when I’m not, I’m not. Nothing in between. But it doesn’t have to be a case of giving in to temptation or anything like that. Some of us are just regular cheaters 
Well, that’s sensible.
I’m worried about the level of sensible, the forum hasn’t been like that for a couple of weeks.
I totally agree.
But, stress is what you perceive as stress (my opinion).
For me, fasting reduces stress because I feel I am making an investment ahead of time. There is a stress on the body but it is minimal if you have a good fasting muscle. 48 hours of no food creates a big hole to fill.
On the other hand, going and hitting the gym hard in the afternoon before an event would stress me out completely. Knowing it will make me hungrier and knowing I can really only burn off 500 to 700 calories in a single (hard) session before an extra 2000 or 3000 multi-course-non-keto-celebration-meal with drinks. Battle lost - stress would win.
Cindy –
What is there to LOL about? If you did watch the video, perhaps you would learn something.
Whether the advice comes from someone fit or fat shouldn’t make a difference.
If you carb up and fill you muscles with glycogen, doing heavy compound lifts is an effective way to:
The advice in this video is one way to optimize a very un keto behavior into something that can benefit your health.
Its difficult to eat perfect keto all the time. Even the most motivated and dedicated of us cheat. That said, I’m trying to contribute something constructive. I’d love to hear a useful contribution from you.
KetoQ, I wasn’t lol-ing about your post and contributing something useful. I apologize if my reply came across that way. But even your reply isn’t really useful to me. Let me explain.
I spent much of my earlier adult life exercising. I LOVE lifting weights and lifting heavy. I’m a 2nd degree black belt from a school where it takes at least 4+ years to earn a 1st degree. So I’m NOT unfamiliar with heavy compound lifts. But I’m not young any more…not old, either, but I recognize that certain activities are no longer good for my joints. I can still bench press or leg press a helluva lot of weight…but when I do, my joints tell me “no.”
So when I see a video from someone who is much younger and already very fit, I know that there’s a good chance that that advice will NOT be appropriate for me. I won’t be going to the gym to do heavy compound lifts any time soon…if ever…again.
It’s also like watching a video from a young man who, maybe to some life change (marriage, an illness, stress, etc) has gained significant weight. And then, just because they can make a change (keto, going to the gym, whatever), they’re like “If I did it, you can too!” Well, no, not really. There’s a huge difference between a young man with one weight gain and an older, menopausal woman with a history of obesity. What works for one will NOT necessarily work for the other…or at least, with the same ease, timeframe, etc.
Kind of like when I see videos of the 63 yr old model or the 80 yr old lady still doing gymnastics and people want it to be motivational. If THEY can do, then anyone can. Again, no. Look at their history, look at their genetics, and you’ll probably see that they were already blessed with the looks, or doing gymnastics at 8 yrs old, etc…things that, no matter how hard I try, I’ll never achieve.
So the LOL was for the video…and again, I didn’t watch it, so it’s not anything about the video in particular. More about ME chuckling at the idea that I’d be able to do what she can do.
Sorry I commented before watching the video; I have a habit of not watching videos (because I used to have expensive Internet). I thought the thread was about changing your whole day to make up for cheating, but it’s not.
She wasn’t advocating anything major–just doing things in a slightly different way, since you’re going to the gym anyway. Very sensible actually.
Noticed that she doing anaerobic (building muscle) rather than aerobic?
My opinion is that whole body aerobic exertion with very small bursts like HIIT would do more justice in the way fat burning, as opposed to building muscle mass?
I would have eaten some raw sweet potato before working out like that with the weights if I was worried about burning more body fat?
I also think the more brown fat (BAT) you have the more the body is going to burn up that cheat meal like it’s nothing; especially the sugar?
Guess it all depends on what your trying to do?
Her point is, the energy surplus one has in this state can be best optimized to fuel a hard and heavy weight training session. You don’t necessarily need that kind of energy surplus to do HIIT training.
Furthermore, this workout is very effective (as can a HIIT workout) at burning up refreshed muscle glycogen stores from a cheat meal to get back into ketosis. Its not really not so much about burning fat.
is the answer.