I would like to know since I have experienced events ( MI and CVA ) and have diabetes if anyone else is moving on with the KETO WOE no matter what ? I mean is it going to be O.K. for someone with established CVD and diabetes to do this ?? I watch all the videos with Fung and Berg , Phinney …but I have not really seen this addressed directly …is it O.K. …
Thank You
Are you asking if there is any “proof” that it is good or bad then probably not.
If you think that CVD is caused by elevated insulin levels then doing something that should lower your insulin levels (which a ketogenic diet seems to pretty effectively) should be a good thing.
If you think that saturated fat and cholesterol levels have anything to do with CVD then maybe you need to do a bit more research?
It has put my Type 2 diabetes into remission so for that its amazing… I can’t report on the CVD because I don’t have it with a CAC scan score of 40.
That is GREAT …and yes I have read a lot of material … read hundreds and hundreds of testimonials …but not from anyone who has had an MI or Stroke …I would like to get a response from anyone who has …what is their status …what does their Doctors say about it …
I think it may be worth modifying your post title (or reposting) with the specific question otherwise (like me) most will think you are just asking about the likelihood of CVD when eating keto…
Something Like “Anyone here started keto following a stroke or MI?”
Just a thought you might get a better response.
M
I had bypass surgery 8 months ago. I’m 59 and had no obvious signs of atherosclerosis. Spent decades following the low fat diet dogma. My cholesterol numbers have always been good. I saw my internist last Thursday for a follow up. He’s an MD who also has his PhD in biochemistry. I explained that I’m now following the keto woe and he was fully supportive. He agrees that insulin seems to be a culprit in CAD. I’m staying this lifestyle course for what it’s worth. In time I’m confident supportive data will come.
Did you have an event or was your CAD seen at a routine visit ? So the Biochemist said insulin is the culprit …on the 11th of this month I had a Stroke …not a major one ,but a stroke nonetheless and I still need to see a Neuro …saw a RD / Nutritionist who is still holding onto the ADA recommendations for diet for those with DIABETES …says my best bet is with INSULIN therapy to get my numbers down instead of using the drugs Im on now . You see I also have not been able to get a BILATERAL TOTAL HIP REPLACEMENT because I have not achieved an HbA1c below 7.0 …they wont do the surgery until then …Im in pain but dont take pharma’s …I use some CBD …but the pain is massive …I dont want to take INSULIN and have been fighting My Doctor for close to 2 years to stay off it … Im struggling with KETO … Im frustrated but I dont want to just give in . I just want to walk again …throw the ball with my boy again … IM 52 …
How so? It seems like it’s your best bet to lower your A1C without drugs. Fasting is also excellent.
Hi Kay, first of all, take a long, slow, deep breath. Feel better? Great! 
My name is Virginia. I just turned 54. I had a near-fatal stroke Dec 18, 2016. I had played around with keto on and off for a year or two before the stroke. After I left the hospital, I was able to go fully keto by the end of May 2017. My b.s. was in the 150s to 170s by then. This morning it was 92. It’s usually 90 - 95 these days, lower if I’m fasting. There is research (REAL research) that lchf is the most healing diet for stroke damage. Fasting, too. Statistics from the CDC show that life expectancy after a stroke like mine (ischemic) is about 5-10 years. I’m only 54! I have WAAAAY too many fun things left to do! So I have made what I believe is a well- informed choice to stay on keto.
Oh, and I can try to help with the struggles. Been there, done that, t-shirt, etc. 
Does anyone have links to the data which says insulin is the culprit of CAD and stroke? Or that keto is therapeutic?
I work in cardiology and have never heard this. I started keto for weight loss but am learning there may be many other benefits. If this is true, I’d like to know how.
I have to say, it’s hard to believe cholesterol isn’t the problem. I got to watch an open heart surgery and the blood cycles through a perfusion machine. I could literally see the fat floating on the top of the blood like motor oil in a puddle.
I’d like to know more please
Hi Nicole. The best place to start is with Jason Fung’s blog. He posts a lot of studies. Then expand to Dr. Aseem Malhotra (cardiologist), Dr. Zoe Harcombe, Tim Noakes, Gary Fettke, Gary Taubes, Peter Attia, and others.They all quote studies. It’s going to be a lot of research for you, but it’ll be fun. They are also all on twitter and post several times each day and interact with each other and quote studies there too. Also Google Scholar and ncbi.gov and PubMed. That’s enough to get you started. I remember an interesting video on YouTube by a Dr. or neurologist, can’t remember his name sorry, talking about high doses of dha (ESPECIALLY dha and not just "omega-3s) being important for stroke in clearing away the blockage. You’ll again have to search for that. When I saw it I recalled reading the same thing about EFAs in The Zone Diet years ago, so I know it’s been around for awhile. Not that an old diet book is a “study,” but I believe he included a reference for the study.
Re the fat in the blood you saw, don’t make the mistake of thinking that what you eat goes directly into the bloodstream. Digestion doesn’t work like that. Otherwise, if you ate, for instance, a peanut butter sandwich, you’d draw blood and see pieces of bread and globs of peanut butter in the blood. Instead, what’s in the blood is what the body BREAKS DOWN that peanut butter sandwich into during digestion and what its enzymes and hormones (like insulin) do in reaction to that peanut butter sandwich. That patient’s insulin was probably sky high and the fat you saw was the body try to find a place to store it that wasn’t already clogged with fat. As a cardiac patient obviously his body had already been storing fat around his heart. Where else was left for it to go?
Dr. Malhotra and Dr. Harcombe gave been tweeting a lot about the recent Harvard claim about coconut oil. Check 'em out.
Hope this helps!
Hmmmmm! Some questions?
Can “insulin” REALLY be the “CULPRIT?”
Could too much SUGAR in the diet be the ‘REAL ACTUAL CULPRIT?’ (blocks absorption of the fat soluble form of Vitamin K)
Ketogenic LCHF is the “cure” for CVD? OR is it a healthier way to process fat intake in the absents of too much sugar? (e.g. much like sugar/glucose blocking HGH {brain; pituitary hormone} & IGF-1 {liver} despite its abundance)
Lack of fat in the diet and the presence of too much sugar/glucose in the diet and the ability to absorb vitamin K (regulates calcium distribution)?
I really want to know more about how “insulin” does this purported thing?
In theory insulin is supposed to burn up all the excess sugar (stores it as fat), so would that not tell us that their is still too much glucose circulating in the blood stream? (i.e. eating too much sugars, carbs, fats and protein?)
Insulin is overwhelmed by that much (too much) sugar\glucose? (i.e. amount; can’t burn all of it up and when the bodies GLUT-4 transports had enough?)
Furthermore we have these supposed blood measurements that are indicators (hyper responders, triglycerides, HDL, LDL, cholesterol, particle size, etc.) of proposed CVD risks? What does that matter if dietary sugar (excess glucose) is the “culprit?”
References:
- “… Vitamin K is a fat-soluble vitamin and is mostly known for its function in blood coagulation. Vitamin K was discovered in 1939 by Henrick Dam, who named the molecule vitamin K according to the Danish word for blood clotting koagulation. …” “…Vitamin K is a fat-soluble vitamin and is mostly known for its function in blood coagulation. … Vitamin K deficiency results in the synthesis of under-carboxylated, biologically inactive gla proteins—a risk factor for vascular calcification and cardiovascular disease (CVD) [3–6] …” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5585988/
- The Role of Vitamin K Status in Cardiovascular Health: Evidence from Observational and Clinical Studies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5585988/
- Cardiovascular Diseases and Fat Soluble Vitamins: Vitamin D and Vitamin K https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26598844/
- Vitamin K for the PRIMARY PREVENTION (did we miss that?) of cardiovascular disease. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26389791/
- On the Trail of the Elusive X-Factor: A Sixty-Two-Year-Old Mystery Finally Solved https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/on-the-trail-of-the-elusive-x-factor-a-sixty-two-year-old-mystery-finally-solved/
- Dr. Ronald Krauss on LDL Cholesterol, Particle Size, Heart Disease & Atherogenic Dyslipidemia https://www.ketogenicforums.com/t/dr-ronald-krauss-on-ldl-cholesterol-particle-size-heart-disease-atherogenic-dyslipidemia/53109
- Cholesterol—Found at the Scene of the Crime. But is it a Culprit? https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/17/stephen-sinatra-on-cholesterol-statins-coq10-ubiquinol.aspx
