Scales question


(Steve) #1

I have gone from 288.7 to 261.4 on Sunday morning . 7 weeks . On Monday morning I weighed my self and I was 265.2. I know weight goes up a little and down but seems like a huge jump . I checked my app and Sunday I was 1960 calories 112 protein and fats at 132 carbs around 5 ( doing carnivore ) this morning scale was basically the same and Monday was around the same info . Only difference was Sunday night had a ribeye steak ( my first ) not a big fan .


#2

16oz of water is a lb, a couple drinks, food thats still working it’s way though, a little water retention can easily have you fluctuating ~5lbs or so. Use the scale to watch trends but always give yourself a couple lbs of ignorable wiggle room. When you cross outside that wiggle room, that’s when you start doing something about it.

You screwed something up bad, but don’t worry. We can fix this!


(Steve) #3

Steak was cooked great . Good sear cooked
Medium rare . Just not as tasty as my beef tenderloin , hope they go on sale again soon .


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #4

Fat loss is not a linear process. There will be ups and downs. As long as the trend is in the right direction, you are fine. Keep track of the fit of your clothing as an indicator of progress, in addition to the number on your scale.


(Karen) #5

I haven’t had scales in the house since my daughter left home 3 years ago and in all honesty I hadn’t used them for years before that. I found it all too easy to get on them every day and learnt the hard way that it brings misery and I would be constantly beating myself up. That was during the many yo-yo dieting years. Just go by how your clothes feel or a tape measure and if you have to get on those scales then do it once a month. Also always use a board under the scales and place in same position same place else they won’t read true. Never use on a carpeted floor. Used to be a slimming world consultant many years ago lol. Good luck with your weight loss journey you appear to be doing really well.


(Steve) #6

I have been going down and down and just out of the blue got no reason up 3lbs. Just caught me off guard. I had pound up then next day down .7 etc never up that much and it is staying the same for a couple days now


#7

Surely water, maybe more waste… You obviously didn’t gain a lot of fat suddenly :smiley: Our body has these things, don’t worry about these.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #8

I gained 32 pounds once, from one day to the next—at least, according to my scale. It seemed to be a real shift, because the scale reading was consistent over the next several days, though my clothes still fit the same. By the end of four or five weeks, however. the scale was back to the original reading.


(Alex ) #9

What’s your thoughts on the SW fraternity these days @Karen18 ?

(sorry for hijacking the thread)


(Karen) #10

When I was consulting it was red day, green day … or all red days or all green days … obviously vegetarians would stick to green. At the time I found it very good as it was like food combining. I can’t really comment on how it is run today though it looks to be a bit more complicated and maybe similar to weight watchers and I could never get my head around a points system. I truly believe that it helped a lot of people. There was no calorie counting back into the day and it was straight forward and simple… you could eat as much as you wanted so long as you didn’t mix the red and green days. I had both red and green recipe books contributed to by slimmers tried and tested favourites which has just given me a thought… there are probably a few good recipes in the red one that may be good for keto, note to self ā€˜dig it out of the cupbpard’ lol. In my opinion if it works for people that are desperate to lose weight then all is good. Some people need to have that get together support group where they can make friends face to face and see peoples successes. I love a good success story. Some people are motivated by a little competition and others by having to brave the scales in front of everyone in the room. The only thing I was a bit concerned about was that there was never any portion control so if they went off the rails and started mixing the red and green then they would maybe continue eating to excess and regain all the weight lost.


(Bob M) #11

I gave up on the scale when I saw that if I fasted over 24 hours, I’d lose 5+ pounds. And I’d gain back most or all of them when I broke my fast.

Then I had a series of DEXA scans done over the course of a year. I gained about 4 pounds of muscle and lost about 6 pounds of fat, for a scale difference of 2 pounds - in a year. 2 pounds on the scale is nothing, and impossible to determine.


(Alex ) #12

Yep green days and Red days… I’ve done it several times and with a lot of success to be fair. Can’t help but feel that any plan that encourages free food / continuous eating is not great though!


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #13

What is the reason for that? A ketogenic diet eaten to satiety works quite well.


(Alex ) #14

As in, a non keto perspective. Slimming World just seem to encourage free foods based on the type of ā€œdayā€ you were having, so for example on a green day, you’re allowed limitless pasta, potato, etc etc.

On red days, the same but with your meats…

Just doesn’t seem like a good message to communicate on a diet plan basically?


#15

I don’t see problems with limitless food especially if it’s restricted enough to avoid overeating (it’s individual, of course… overeating on keto and even on carnivore happens too)… I have much more problems with restriction of the amount. If I get to eat something as a main dish, I want to eat as much as I want, what else?
Yeah, this may be a problem when losing fat with my overeating past but I still don’t have any other option, I must eat my fill… The diet should be good enough to ensure success without forcing me into being hungry a lot. This green/red isn’t like that by default (probably there is such an option but I would need to put work into it and I can do that starting with my own original diet…) but it seems it worked for many people.

I gladly restrict many things but the amounts should be practically unlimited. I automatically limit certain items anyway. Restriction of the amount can be very dangerous but for certain people, it’s simply totally irrealistic.

I don’t say this free eating is good for everyone even with the restrictions of this diet… But the amount restrictions isn’t good for everyone either and I am always all for finding the right diet where unlimited food isn’t a problem.

How could they put a limit on food anyway? We are different, we all need a different amount of food… My own calorie intake is vastly different on my different days… And what if we stay hungry? We should eat then…

I think, these are just some tips and in the end we should decide what to eat… I hate very fixed (usually starvation) diets but of course, many people love meal plans, I just don’t get how they handle it if it’s not good for their specific needs… Keto is extremely free, there is a single little rule so we all do it a big differently, we can do it wrong, we should learn and figure out things about the human body or at least about our own. There are no general good diets with very fixed rules. We are just too different. Some people get lucky but we often should work for a really good personal diet.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #16

As we know, the metabolism increases to meet intake, with the body even wasting energy or excreting the excess, as necessary. There are limits in both directions of course, but they are pretty broad.


#17

I definitely don’t know, it makes no sense to me, actually. If it would be true, no one would gain fat. And people often gain fat, even on keto, just way less often but I don’t have personal experience about it.

But it doesn’t matter if we can maintain our weight eating way more than usual without changing our activity (a not so small part of people actually can do it to some extent. I could broke my pretty broad limits when carbs were involved even though my fat-gain was super slow. Many people can eat way more I could. Maybe some people has even more broad limits and they can eat twice their normal energy need without gaining any fat? I don’t know, never read about such limits). Dieters want to lose fat, not maintain while eating limitless. And not being able to gain (or very slowly and only through massive overeating) doesn’t help in losing fat (except that when we are disheartened or just tempted and eat a ton, we still stall… but it has a negative side too).


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #18

A lot of people’s fat was eaten as carbohydrate that then got stored in the form of fat.


#19

Yes, that’s very believable. It has little to do with what I said though.
(I don’t know what my fat was made of but my gaining was the result of massive overeating of both carbs and fat. But the actual source and reason doesn’t matter - I think - when I want to lose fat and need to give my body a reason to use up the reserves. I doubt it would actually throw them away as it never did before. And my metabolism only sped up when I overate, it seems but it was temporal and didn’t result in losing as I overate. I just can’t gain quickly.)


(Karen) #20

It is just basically food combining. All about acid and alkaline I believe.