Salt intake study


(UsedToBeT2D) #42

Right on Gossage.


(Joey) #43

How about we close this topic?


#44

You surely have some serious personal factor. I am below 1 pound of meat when I do carnivore(-ish) and I am fine with my sodium. Just your supplemented sodium would feel awfully high to me. You need more, I need less.
I don’t believe one must eat even 1 pound of meat, it’s quite individual too. Some of us eat other things, not only meat and definitely not just leaner meat… 2 pounds of meat would be possibly overeating in my case and I can eat too much below 1 pound of meat (though it’s very easy to avoid on carnivore with right food choices), thank you very much, I don’t need to force-feed myself (2 pound meat isn’t what I willingly do, ever) to make things even worse…
My meat eating record was 1.5-1.7 pound this far (not counting chicken but I stopped that as it makes me hungry, even 2 pounds of it in one sitting, at least it did a few times) but I can’t do that 2 days in a row. 1 pound is a very nice amount for me now that I am used to eat more meat than in the beginning and I eat simpler. I doubt I ever will go close to 2 pounds as an average.

And I don’t think 2 pounds of meat gives enough sodium for the people who need much. Meat barely has ANY sodium! According to the data I used, I got 300mg sodium from my meat itself yesterday (1 pound meat), a bit more from my eggs and the bigger part of my modest intake was added salt…
600g sodium can’t be enough for every carnivore, even sweating hours on the sun! Or I am totally lost about human needs but indeed, I know nothing except some personal stories where WAY more was needed…
I typically sweat very little (nothing noticeable when I do my workouts with my baby weights, hot temperature does the trick, probably running too but it’s still not too much compared to others) and I could live without any sodium intake for 5 days just fine once (l got a bit funny though… cheapest drunkenness ever! I had no idea about electrolytes because why would education cover that), that surely helps but I think I was born like this, needing less sodium than the average person for some reason.


#45

the physical body only requires about 115mg of sodium to function and ā€˜be ok’ before you fall into ā€˜very bad’ issues with it effecting your body.

but of course our lives mean things…exercise, sweat, stress and more and then ya got the ā€˜individual’ WHO LIKE ME eats massive salt intake and I function best on it?

salt is that line of such a simple thing for ā€˜the many out there’ but a few of us fall into the ā€˜salt is a friggin’ real issue’ for us out there but we are more few for sure…good thing is salt is so readily available, so easy to ā€˜try more and see’ how we do and not an elusive crazy vitamin or mineral we have to ā€˜search and seek out’ thru hard changes…salt up and down, in and out thru our journey and see how we do…salt more and see, salt less and see, NO salt and see…one of those easiest little experiments to see what suits us best and how we do fall into what is our sweet spot

actually I am grateful sodium is that easy to ā€˜find us’ in it all :sunny:


(Edith) #46

Pre-keto I didn’t need to supplement salt like I do now. It is definitely the keto lifestyle that has me needing to supplement with extra salt.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #47

Dr. Phinney explains in several of his lectures that the kidneys normally excrete salt at a certain rate, but that elevated insulin causes the kidneys to slow that rate. So when we cut the carbohydrate, they return to the faster, normal rate and we have to work harder to keep our salt intake up. I notice that, on keto, I too have definitely had to increase my salt intake on keto, despite having been a salt-lover all my life.


(Edith) #48

I have to admit, it is a very annoying part of keto.


#49

Oh I had absolutely no info about it, I have something now :D) (Never stumbled on it and well, I never have sodium problems as far as I know…)
But it’s surely something very minimal as the 0.8g/kg for protein… We do lose some through sweating… My SO said we clearly have less salty sweat when we have really, really little sodium, it’s logical - but we surely have some limit and the bare minimum and the ideal amount may be very different…?

If I could go below my 4-5g salt (it’s possible but I had to eat sweets and too many eggs and I am not THAT curious), I would try out very low sodium…
I could try out high too (10+ g salt a day) but that would mean adding things I don’t really want… Though I need to take magnesium now, I can mix epsom salt with the same amount of salt, I suppose and eat a tablespoonful right after waking up or something… That sounds super easy…
Who knows, maybe I would figure out things even though I am very happy with my ā€œaccoding to tasteā€ salting…


(Ohio ) #50

Same experience here. Salt lover finding I don’t get enough sodium. Thanks also for explaining Phinney. I remember him saying that but not the explanation.

Sea salt in the medicine cabinet.
Sea salt grinder on the nightstand.

Lots on here probably use salt for extended fasting. As do I. I also depend on it for refeeding syndrome. Instant cure.


(Ohio ) #51

So important here.

I believe that hunger urges can be just electrolyte depletion.


#52

salt intake also shows me the way…right now–but subject to change later —maybe, who knows but not me cause I can’t quite see the future just yet ha
:wink:


#53

I’m about to listen to this podcast on my next car drive to home in the country side:


#54

I was wondering about Roman soldiers. They weren’t so much hunter gatherers and a bit later than paleo times. But they did eat a diet free of processed industrial food stuffs. They got paid an allowance to buy salt. It’s where we get the word salary from. From the Latin sal meaning salt, that moved through Old English sealt to salt. Salt was precious then. Why? Were they in ketosis?


#55

You post the best darn side pics to your chat you make at all times…love the pic for sure even tho. hmmm, on that ā€˜real replica’ of the armor and all HAHA you crack me up!