Got my LDL-p number and it’s way too high considering I’ve been in keto since July. Everything I read says eliminating my addiction to bulletproof should fix this problem, I just have zero clue what to replace it with. Adding high fat protein sources hasn’t worked. My hunger is out of control without the BP coffee.
Ideas?
Thanks kindly!
Our dietary cholesterol has very little effect on our serum levels, what was your LDL-P number? What was it before keto? What are you eating in a day? A BPC shouldn’t be the difference between satisfied and out of control hunger.
This is what I am wondering too. If you’ve been eating keto since july you should not have major hunger issues at this point, unless you have lost a lot of weight or there is maybe some medication (like statins) that may be influencing your hunger.
Also I wonder if your HDL has increased and your trigs have lowered? A lot of current research suggests that LDL (or even total cholesterol) is not the only thing to look at for risk of heart disease. One formula that seems to be a better indicator of cholesterol health is trigs divided by HDL. A ratio of higher than 4.0 is considered high risk for heart disease while 2.0 is pretty good and the closer you get to 1.0, the less risk you have.
Relying on LDL-C alone can be misleading. For example, people with obesity, metabolic syndrome or diabetic lipid disorders often have raised TG, low HDL-C and normal or close to normal LDL-C. These individuals produce very low-density lipoproteins (VLDL) and intermediate density lipoproteins (IDL) which may increase the risk of atherosclerosis.
Many studies have found that the triglyceride/HDL cholesterol ratio (TG/HDL-C ratio) correlates strongly with the incidence and extent of coronary artery disease. This relationship is true both for men and women.
https://www.docsopinion.com/2014/07/17/triglyceride-hdl-ratio/
I typically have 2 to 3 per day. My LDL-p number is 1545. I only have my regular cholesterol number pre-keto, 100. Now it’s 155. Which didn’t concern me because keto. But the LDL-p number concerns me.
I’ve struggled to get fat into my diet and the BP coffee did the trick. I eat around 6 to 8 ounces of protein, plus low-carb veggies. I haven’t struggled with hunger at all, then I eliminated the BPC. Now I’m starving again and I do not like it.
I thought the keto diet raises HDL and lowers triglycerides - that’s a good thing but I would not have expected much, if any, change in the number of LDL particles LDL-P. However, since it was always the ratios between all these factors which mattered that’s okay. If HDL goes the ratio goes in the right direction too.
(Keto effects the size of LDL-C particles with LDL-P, for the better, but regular tests don’t measure that gain).
Do you know if you HDL has gone up. And trigs gone down?
A year ago, my HDL was 50 and my Triglycerides were 67. So, they’ve both gone up. Research indicates BP coffee can be the culprit. Cholesterol does go up for a few of us, even on keto. Sucks that I seem to be one of them. Would really like to test the BPC elimination theory.
I’ve lost 28 pounds since July, been feeling good and pleased with changing my eating habits. I’m not on statins and have refused meds for cholesterol management. Would much rather figure out how to make this work.
89/62 = 1.43 trigs to HDL ratio is considered quite good. I believe LDL gets a bad reputation and it’s because of biased research that is passed down to doctors who are taught this stuff in med school. Why? Because big pharma manipulates what is taught and they make billions of dollars per year by selling their LDL lowering statins.
People with what is considered normal or low LDL have heart attacks all the time. There is so much more to it than total cholesterol or high LDL. I encourage you to do your own research on this and to not trust what your doctor was taught to tell you.
I am researching all the time, which is how I knew to ask for the more intense cholesterol test. My Doc is good, it’s his PA that’s pushing meds. Thanks for your insights.
HDL 62 is over 40 so that’s good. (All in mg/dl)
Trigs, 89 is below 150 I’d be happy with that.
LDL (137) but over 160 is considered high.
LDL-P (1545) - again not above 1600 or 2000 … not high.
Your Total (217) is also good, over 240 is high.
Your ratios are very good, I will gladly swap your figures for mine. I haven’t been in keto for long enough to expect my figures to have improved (I’m wanting higher HDL and lower trigs) but I don’t expect LDLs to move.
Do any of these figures really matter all that much. Nope!
Ivor Cummins has great information about all this. Uffe Ravnskov has good books (MD PhD who clearly saw the myth in all these statins)…
Enjoy your coffee (although I prefer mine with just cream not butter or MCT …)
I’ve given up coffee. It spikes my blood sugar! No coffee, FBG 84. Coffee - FBG 96. Eat bacon and eggs. Have a healthy breakfast.
I’ll assume you’re familiar with this website then https://cholesterolcode.com/hyper-responder-faq/ If not, you might find something of interest 
I switched to grass-fed butter, and added more olive oil to my diet, just for giggles.
I am indulging in my BP coffee, gloriously happy!
Thanks.
